Why 7-9 in 2015 feels a lot better than 7-9 in 2014 for Saints
 

I feel the same way

At face value you look at the standings, you look at the record, and you see a team treading water in mediocrity. The record of 7-9 does speak for itself and you can give all the excuses for the reasons why the Saints got there you want, the bottom line is that for two straight seasons the result has been the same. And yet, at the risk of being “that guy” that distinguishes the two seasons from each other despite them looking the same, I’m going to do just that. At the end of 2014, I really did see 7-9 with a “glass half empty” approach. I knew a doomsday of sorts was coming. I even predicted a 6-10 season after watching the team in training camp at the Greenbrier. This time around, though, I see 7-9 as “glass half full”. The difference is partly how the season ended but also how the roster is set up for the future.

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Feels good cause 2 of the 7 wins came against the Falcons.

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Still feels like **** to me.

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I don't. There wasn't a team out there we couldn't have beat the last 2 years if we had a good D. I don't think we improve to much if the D don't.

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Not much difference. I would argue that 2016 won't be much different either. Should we feel good next year too?

We sucked. Lucky to win 7.

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We sucked most of the season, but I started to see improvement and the team did not give up. The firing of Rr will more than likely prove to be beneficial heading into next season

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Call it poo-poo. Call it caca. Call it $#!*.
It smells the same and 7-9 stinks. Get it fixed.

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I agree with this OP. (ooo. im getting all internetty. next thing, I'll have
a myspace)

That was, no matter how badly the Falcons suck, a fine way to end the season.
We were maximum suckage on week one, and so bad that, yeah, it was an accomplishment to win 7 games.

I'll feel better about 7-9, if we lock down Drew.

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Hear hear! The team is a lot younger and with more potential than this time last year. 2007 we were 7-9, 2008 we were 8-8 and then BOOM 2009 we were 13-3 and won a Super bowl.

The NFL is such a world of parity that what might look like small changes to a roster might be what moves a team from 8-8 to 13-3.

Between those two seasons the Saints signed a bunch of players, only two really stood out, Greer and Sharper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_N...eason#Signings

I believe that this years team is closer to be a double digit win team than many thinks.

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I agree with Halloween. It's been 10 years since I felt we could win every game we played if we got a respectable showing from our defense. And we won many games without getting that. We don't need to play complimentary football on the defense. We don't need to perennially be one of the best on that side of the ball. We need to just be decent and I am seeing some pieces to get us there. Does it feel better? Not really.

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Let see 7 - 9? feels good? lets see

Defense while not a dominate down the stretch did come in and change things up in the second half of each and every game after Rob was canned. DA did enough in game adjustments to give us a shot a winning.

hell yeah 7 - 9 in 2015 feels better. No Rob

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For sum reason I feel better with 7-9 this year with the young guys we have on defense I'm excited to see what they do next season... If we could get another draft like 2015 that would be great !

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its all about attitude and effort, 2014 had neither while this year's team at least fought until the end of the season minus a couple weak links that I hope are gone by next season. This year was all about fixing all the problems from 2014 and changing the culture again, so I can live with 7-9 under those circumstances. Now with this young group of players and another great draft, look out for this team in 2016 and beyond

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Keep in mind this team started out the season with an incident of "as many as 10 Saints players" in the club at 4 AM and a star player traded away, for essentially fighting and whipping a woman with a belt at a ridiculous beach party straight out of an episode of HBO's "Ballers." So I was not really expecting them to go anywhere this year except, out to the club at 4 AM....

Maybe I am still just a little high on "the speech" from the other day, but I feel like towards the end of this year the light bulb really went ON, over Sean Payton's head, and I think he GETS IT now. Whereas before he was kind of aloof, or trying to mask things, or hiding the flaws or denying them, or pretending things weren't all that bad. In real time they were of course making small changes to the team every year since '06, but I think this year, or post- Jeff Ireland, Payton has really gotten on board with what is wrong with this team and now he clearly wants to stick around and fix it. And he knows it's got to be something NEW, not the same-old same-old, keeping-the-band-together type thing.

NOW it really feels like the reboot or the Sean Payton 2.0 that we all were craving and wanting, is happening. IF he can get a handle on the clubbing and team partying at 4 AM, and get a good crop of new young players in here, this team will be better than 7-9 next year, you can bank on it.

If you think about it, this whole team could have really cratered and given up after the Eagles game, it was looking that bad....they could have just as easily given up and quit on the season after the Texans game, which also looked bad...as in really quit, lay down, and pack it in....but in both cases they bounced back, or at least kept fighting the good fight...

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if is this truly Payton V 2.0, then I want to see that killer instinct and creative play calling he did before 2012 back. IMO the offense has gotten way to passive and predictable since his return and I don't think I've seen him lay into a player on the sideline in a long time too

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In 2014 we were a beaten team. In 2015 we fought the good fight. That is the difference in this team. The glass is 3/4 full.

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Page 2. Nope, still doesn't feel any better....

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I feel a little more optimistic than last year, due to various things. Ireland's on board and going to have a bigger role. Last year's draft was pretty solid for once.

Also, I think since we had some real bad losses this year (Washington, Houston) where we seemed to hit rock bottom and I think to an extent Payton was on the hot seat. We won the last few, and Payton seemed to have that twinkle back in his eye once it was revealed he would be back. He seemed grateful for another chance and less beat down. It could be smoke and mirrors, but hope the old Payton is back. And I'm hoping we learned from the mistake of not having a defensive identity as to what freaking defense (3-4, 4-3, man or zone) we would run. Some of that was Rob Ryan, but certainly can't repeat that mistake again.

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"you are what your record says you are..."

7-9 is 7-9 it is the same result. We have the same team.

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I feel better about the team now then I did a few months ago. I think the Saints finished the season strong and played hard. I liked what I saw. I'm excited for next season.

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The locker room culture is definitely better now compared to the end of last year's season. 1 bad punk like Galette brought the whole team down. Add the fact that Ryan is gone, and these are the main reasons why we'll be a better team in 2016.

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Bah humbug!

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And coaches...

Page 3, still feels like ****.

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This franchise has essentially gone nowhere in the last 5 years. You have to slice the baloney awfully thin to come up with a reason to feel good about any of this.

It's not going to be any better next year, and we are likely not to see a truly competitive team until 2018. In order to feel good, you have to do things differently than those that are producing the bad feelings to begin with. So far, nothing is really different.

This starts with the front office. Managing the cap, finding uninjured talent and getting a handle on the team's personalities.

Then coach the hell out of them. Figure out what the Seahags and Pats are doing and do that. Why do we have to look more like the Browns or (gasp) the FailClowns?