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triman 01-24-2016 11:10 AM

Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
With only two teams possibly picking a QB in front of the Saints and Eagles following and needing a QB the possibility of a team like the Rams moving ahead of the Eagles is a real thing. The Texans also are a possible trade partner. Using the trade value chart we could easily get a 2nd from Texans,or a 3rd from Rams. While it is possible that the Saints could opt for a QB IMHO we will not use this pick on a QB. Moving back to 15 or 19 would be acceptable if we got another early rd pick . Given our talent level we need all the picks we can get.Loomis make it happen. Not only do we get an other possible starter we get salary cap relief. I always get excited about the draft and can't wait. Thoughts,Opinions,Comments.

VegasSaint9 01-24-2016 11:35 AM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
The problem with our team is that there is no blue chip, elite talent on it. Brees and Armstead are elite. Cam Jordan is very very good, but not elite. He's a great player on a bad d-line. Delvin Breaux could start to make a case next year if he does what he did this year and works on his technique.

If Myles Jack, Billings, A Shawn Robinson, Shaq Lawson, or any other highly touted defensive players are there, I would much rather take one of them than trade back. The past few years I was all for trading back due to talent, but I think this is a pretty top heavy draft where we HAVE to get the best defensive player that may or may not fall on our lap. If all the blue chip talent is gone, I'm all for it, but I'll be livid if we trade back, dont get one of those guys and then the player is gone when we select at our new spot.

ScottF 01-24-2016 11:53 AM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
If we draft like we did last year, and not the previous 5 years, I'd say yes, go for quantity.

I might be wrong on one player, but aren't all nine of these guys still with us- IR, PS, or active?

13th Overall (Round 1) - Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford
31st Overall (Round 1) - Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson
44th Overall (Round 2) - Hau'oli Kikaha, OLB, Washington
75th Overall (Round 3) - Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
78th Overall (Round 3) - P.J. Williams, CB. Florida State
148th Overall (Round 5) - Davis Tull, OLB, Tennessee-Chattanooga
154th Overall (Round 5) - Tyeler Davison, DT, Fresno State
167th Overall (Round 5) - Damian Swann, CB, Georgia
230th Overall (Round 7) - Marcus Murphy, RB, Missouri

Crusader 01-24-2016 12:20 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 690584)
If we draft like we did last year, and not the previous 5 years, I'd say yes, go for quantity.

I might be wrong on one player, but aren't all nine of these guys still with us- IR, PS, or active?

13th Overall (Round 1) - Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford
31st Overall (Round 1) - Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson
44th Overall (Round 2) - Hau'oli Kikaha, OLB, Washington
75th Overall (Round 3) - Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
78th Overall (Round 3) - P.J. Williams, CB. Florida State
148th Overall (Round 5) - Davis Tull, OLB, Tennessee-Chattanooga
154th Overall (Round 5) - Tyeler Davison, DT, Fresno State
167th Overall (Round 5) - Damian Swann, CB, Georgia
230th Overall (Round 7) - Marcus Murphy, RB, Missouri

The jury is still out on Grayson, Williams and Tull but I like what I have seen from the rest so far.

I'd be all for trading back in the first if it could give us say a 2nd and a 5th.

jeanpierre 01-24-2016 12:32 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
Wouldn't trade that pick until it was selection time as it is very likely a franchise player could fall...

Seer1 01-24-2016 12:56 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 690587)
Wouldn't trade that pick until it was selection time as it is very likely a franchise player could fall...

That, plus there really aren't any blue chip kind of QBs up for grabs this year. Somebody'd have to want our draft pick for a trade to happen.

Rugby Saint II 01-25-2016 06:12 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
That is what happens when you don't have a winning season........there are always better possibilities in the draft.

voodooido 01-25-2016 06:18 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
The pick is always worth more at the last second. Hold on to that bad boy until Dallas decides they want another rd 1 pick. Make them sell the farm on this one. We need some serious help on the O and D-lines. A couple extra picks would help that. Get a Rd 2 and 4 this year and a Rd1 next.

Danno 01-25-2016 07:10 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
We never trade down.

hagan714 01-26-2016 06:57 AM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
Like Danno said we never do it really

I am one that is always willing to trade back if the right player does not fall into your lap.

With the cap situation still hanging around and 2017 looks to be the big year in the rebuilding mode I say get the picks and stuff the roster full of late day two and early day three players as you can. All with the idea to try to get players to replace all the aging veterans that will be FA in 2017. Well as many as you can.

Last year's draft class looks to be a promising start.
31st Overall (Round 1) - Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson
44th Overall (Round 2) - Hau'oli Kikaha, OLB, Washington
154th Overall (Round 5) - Tyeler Davison, DT, Fresno State

Have yet to see
78th Overall (Round 3) - P.J. Williams, CB. Florida State
148th Overall (Round 5) - Davis Tull, OLB, Tennessee-Chattanooga

IR issues
167th Overall (Round 5) - Damian Swann, CB, Georgia

God only knows
13th Overall (Round 1) - Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford
75th Overall (Round 3) - Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State

Still not sold on
230th Overall (Round 7) - Marcus Murphy, RB, Missouri

jeanpierre 01-26-2016 11:55 AM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 690738)
We never trade down.

Yes, sir, you are correct sir...

Well, not first round picks at least; we traded down early on in Payton, Loomis tenure...

Marlboro Man 01-26-2016 04:05 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
The elite DE's and OLB's will be gone by the mid 1st round and we need one in the worst way. If we want one we need to stay put and take the best available at our pick. If we don't it will set us back 2-3 years. I'd say trade Spiller and maybe another RB and try to get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for them, then we could trade back up into round 1 and get another top player, say a Whitehair or the G from LSU.

halloween 65 01-26-2016 05:59 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
Trading Graham last season wasn't a bad thing it netted us a C and a 31st pick, not bad. If we trade Jordan, we could get a top tier starter like Unger in the Seattle trade and a pretty decent pick in the draft. I like trades you get one good player and lose nothing + a pick. I would put Bush and Vaccarro on the block to and get better SS's.

Danno 01-26-2016 06:13 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
Does anyone know how many players are traded for draft picks?

They're like Big Foot sightings. It just doesn't happen in the real world.

voodooido 01-26-2016 06:24 PM

Re: Saints in position to trade down with team looking for a QB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 690913)
Trading Graham last season wasn't a bad thing it netted us a C and a 31st pick, not bad. If we trade Jordan, we could get a top tier starter like Unger in the Seattle trade and a pretty decent pick in the draft. I like trades you get one good player and lose nothing + a pick. I would put Bush and Vaccarro on the block to and get better SS's.

Pretty sure not 1 team would trade for our defensive players.


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