Will the Saints Release Jairus Byrd This Offseason?
 

The New Orleans Saints will need to do a ton of work to get back to the level of Super Bowl contenders; even so they will need to overhaul their cap situation as they currently have little to no room to make any type of moves this free agency period.


Jarius Byrd has been a weight on the Saints cap space for some time and this may finally be the season they can figure something out a solution to his ridiculous cap hit. Byrd is slated to count $10,900,000 against the cap and his huge cap number makes it impossible for the Saints to negotiate around it.


In 2015 Byrd started in 12 games and played in 13, he recorded 53 combined tackles, a sack, interception, a forced fumble, and 3 pass defenses. In his career he has amassed 431 combined tackles, 4 sacks, 38 pass defenses, 23 interceptions, 13 forced fumbles, and 2 defensive touchdowns.

New Orleans Saints Rumors and News: Will the Saints Release Jairus Byrd This Offseason? : US : Sports World Report

Ok I see this guy has no idea what dead cap money is muchless looked into the nightmare that is Byrds contract. take a look for yourself.
Jairus Byrd Contract, Salary Cap Details & Breakdowns | Spotrac

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Actually, it isn't so farfetched at this point.

Cap hit is $10.9 million. Dead cap is $11.4 million. So it's only $500,000 difference.

A release after June 1 would split the $11.4 million across 2016 and 2017. So in 2016 the payout would be $5.7 million. So that release would save $5.2 million this year while hanging another $5.7 million on the cap next year.

But one way or the other the dead money has to be paid because those are the guaranteed signing bonus dollars. The key question is Byrd worth the $7.4 million in salary that he is due for the 2016 season? Those are the dollars that are saved by releasing him.

SFIAH

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No biggie..... just a few more $.

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Just throwing money away.

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Sucking it up one more year would make more sense IMO
2016 $10,900,000 $11,400,000

now after the 2016 season I can see it. Spread it out now.
2017 $11,700,000 $8,000,000
Actually when he sighed this deal I had him pegged as done with after 2017
2018 $12,200,000 $4,600,000
2019 $10,200,000 $1,200,000

Add to it the simple fact we have nothing on this team i the way of quality depth as it is for a FS. Or SS. Not one starter can be had from the group.

Besides who knows the entire starting secondary might actually be healthy and only have to deal with minor injuries for a change. :rolleyes:

Put a SS next to Byrd that actually lets him roam free would amaze me. Two I like that can play the SS and make the move to FS when you kick Byrd to the curb are.

If the saints make the move now it does nothing to help our cap really. So they better keep an eye on Jalen Ramsey as a trade up replacement if he slips close to the tenth pick which i still think is not so far fetch with a player like him. Talent is there but he is a jack of all trades and so far a master of none.

That or trade down get picks and let the mid priced low level FA walk. Entertain the idea of drafting say Darian Thompson FS/SS Boise State in the bottom half of round 1.

Personally I would hate to see the saints paint themselves deeper into a corner than they already are on defense.

might as well look at another SS while your at.

Then again this is the saints so who knows. I have been watching this game play out for years and waiting for the FO to get tired and want to clear the books for a fresh start. aint happened yet.

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If the Saints were a big market team, Mickey Loomis would have been fired long ago...

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Don't know of any other GM that has made this many poor calls and lost so much money. It's amazing he still has a job.

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Agreed, the fact that Loomis still has a job after all these bad decisions is puzzling.

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what do Byrd and Browner have in common? no SS help deep.

talk about a three way made in hell. Browner Byrd and Kenny

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That's strictly scheme related to be fair, every DC we've had since GW has played single high safety and SS in the box.

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I'd like to see Bryd play another season anyway. Just to see what he can do with a different DC. I still believe he could be a special player. Some people said the same about Ingram and he worked out well and had a great season this year.

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I guess you two have missed the boat. Loomis has made no "bad decisions" or "poor calls". All he has done is make Sean Payton's wishes possible within the cap constraints. Loomis is simply a genius of a cost accountant. He has next to no say in personnel decisions. He is not responsible for any lost money whatsoever. He has his job because he is the very best in the league at doing the supposedly impossible. I will guarantee you that he has the cap planned out years in advance. So many GM's live in the now with little clue how to maximize the budget.

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He took sole responsibility for the Junior Galette fiasco just a couple of weeks ago and that's cost us about 10 mil currently.

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double post somehow

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And it hasn't been all bad. We've signed some pretty good players via trades and free-agency

Drew Brees
Darren Sharper
Jonathan Vilma
Curtis Lofton
Max Unger
Willie Snead
Darren Sproles
Lance Moore
David Thomas
Keenan Lewis
Jabari Greer
Delvin Breaux
Raphael Bush
David Hawthorne
Anthony Hargrove
Bobby McCray
Broderick Bunkley
Hollis Thomas
Steve Gleason
Heath Evans
Hoomanamnui
Jonathan Goodwin
Scott Fujita
Scott Shanle
Ben Grubbs
Ben Watson
Jeremy Shockey
Randall Gay
Tim Hightower


I think Loomis' track record is better than people realize.

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Very valid point, one thing that the list shows me though is that most of those players were not splashy multi million dollar signings besides maybe;

Brees
Sharper
Vilma
Lofton
Unger
Lewis

Loomis seems to pay the big bucks quite often (credit to his cap shuffling skills) but the players never turn out to be what we expected.
The Patriots didn't break the bank for Randy Moss, they signed him to a one year deal and let him prove himself.

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Of course he took responsibility. Was he going to throw Payton under the bus? Everyone that really matters knows it wasn't on him so it means nothing for him to claim responsibility. Benson, Payton and Loomis couldn't care less what you or any other fan thinks. In relative terms we don't know ****.

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This is the house that Rob built on that side of the ball. He went and got player that Rob wanted to make his defense work.

SP allowed it at the risk of the offense each and every time since Rob arrived. SP made do with what he had to get a defense on the field to help them win. SP held up his end of the deal Rob did not


Valid point. plus have a secondary that does not play the IR shuffle in and out game all season long would be a huge help.

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I hope not. I think with a little pass rush he can be really good for us back there. He did as well as anyone this year once healthy. I think the best way to fix the situation(s) in our defensive backfield is to get a violant pass rusher next to Jordan.

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And this. Loomis does not make the bad decisions. Loomis gets the money that Payton and other coaches need to get the players THEY want. Payton makes the decisions on how to spend that money. We are up against the cap every year and somehow Loomis finds money to get big free agents. The coach and staff just pick the wrong players.
I dont think paying JR was a horrible idea. If he had kept his mouth shut and played like he always did our pass rush would have been a lot better and none of us would be griping about his contract.
We have no idea what went on behind the scenes there.

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If our CB's can stay on the field maybe Byrd won't have to play 10 yards off the receiver and he could be more effective. Or if we gave him a pass rush and gave some pressure from the D-line maybe he could still be a ball hawk. He always seems to be playing in the deep back half of the field. Are we always going to play Byrd as a single high safety?(I think that's the term I'm looking for)