Courtney Watson
 

I actually thought that we\'d stopped talking about Watson and were investigating the importance of the MLB position in general.

Courtney Watson
 

Yeah, that\'s what I wanted to talk about. I just had to address BlackandBlue\'s post. He think\'s I have an agenda...LMAO!

I have no vendetta against Watson. I have a need to state what I think is best for the team.

Courtney Watson
 

You saw him out of place on a few plays? OK, what scheme were they running, was he in man or zone, and where should he have been on that play?
I never said Ruff should be starting. But your crusades are inconsistent. You\'ve been a member of this board for two years now, if you thought MLB was such an important facet of the defense, why is this the first time I\'m hearing it? God knows, we\'ve had this problem for a while now.
It doesn\'t get under my skin, cause it\'s pretty easy to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who doesn\'t. Makes reading this board alot easier, cause I can skip over 80% of the BS.

EDIT: and JKool, I will reopen any damn conversation I feel like, capeche :P
P.S. Did you like how I optioned to EDIT my current post in favor of creating a new one :cool:

[Edited on 1/3/2005 by BlackandBlue]

Courtney Watson
 

Yeah, yeah, yeah...

This is what I know B&B. Waston may go on to be the next Ray Lewis. But, he didn\'t make enough plays last year at MLB!

Now you might want to disagree with that, but we did have the 32nd ranked defense in the NFL and Watson was our MLB. It wasn\'t all his fault, but he certainly had enough opportunities to make more plays than what he did!

And this isn\'t the fist time I\'ve brought up the MLB position. In fact, I\'ve brougth it up more than a few occassions.

What are you trying to say? Are you sold on Watson? If you are that\'s fine. But, I ain\'t!

And why tell me what you skip over on this board? Is that suppose to interest me or something? :P

Courtney Watson
 

Thanks for answering the questions I presented to you. Way to prove your point.
I\'m not saying I\'m sold on Watson. I mentioned to you in a previous thread on this same subject that I saw him make a few plays last year, was he stellar? No, but I\'m not as willing to dismiss him after one year as you are. Will he be our starting MLB for years to come? I have no clue, he will need to improve. But I don\'t start threads with the motive to do nothing more than irritate others on this board. I thought we were past all that, since the AB threads have died off.

Courtney Watson
 

man my god im not sure im smart but im sure not dumb but boy does this sound like some other threads on here

Courtney Watson
 

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Hold on there amigo!!

What the heck makes you think I want to talk about Watson to irritate somebody? That\'s just you inventing things.

And, quite frankly, I\'m offended by your accusations. :mad:

I\'m not the biggest Courtney Watson fan ... NO!

It seems like you\'re getting offended by my \"opinion\" of Watson. I really can\'t help that.

Look, you\'re the one making these ridiculous accusations. Why you feel the need to do that I have no idea.

When you make those accusations, then you are singling me out and you\'re just flat out wrong.

Courtney Watson
 

BnB, the edit function? A novel idea... :notworthy:

You know that most of the time I\'m just tryin\' to getcha out o\' hidin\', buddy.

Also, I wasn\'t challenging your desire to (nor right to) talk about something else, I was merely trying to determine if the conversation that we were having was going to continue.
Perhaps I phrased that poorly?

EDIT: I went through all the trouble of looking up OLBs that are impact players, I just wanted to know if that had any power to sway the view on the value MLB position, and if there were any thoughts on that.

[Edited on 1/3/2005 by JKool]

Courtney Watson
 

One other thing. I\'m going to state this for the last time.

I don\'t want to cut Watson or anything like that. I like Watson. I just don\'t like him as our starting MLB heading into this season. I want to get a proven MLB and move Watson to WLB.

Why does this offend some people? Mike Detillier stated the exact samething in one of his articles.

I don\'t know if folks just read what they want to read or they just don\'t like hearing anything negative about Watson.

But, this conversation was going very well for the most part.

Maybe it offended some people when I said Haslett has sold Watson to them. No offesnse intended, but he\'s sold me on a few guys myself. Like Tebucky, Hodge, and James Allen.

I thought those guys were going to get it done too. At least that\'s what Haslett told us.

Courtney Watson
 

To bite a line...

As usual, you\'re missing the point of my posts entirely. You take this as me being offended by what you have to say about Watson. I\'m not questioning your opinion of Watson. I\'m questioning your intent of this thread by creating it. I\'ll give you the first line of this thread as an example:

As if to put the average Saint fan in a light of being a moron for not thinking for themselves and deriving their own opinion from what they see on the field. You claim to have made your own opinion on the subject by offering this gem...

...but when asked a few questions concerning that remark, you deflect them by offering up...

Wow. I\'m at a loss. You nailed the heart of your subject in three, albeit repetitive, words.

Great! I\'m sure we\'ve all touched on that subject at one time or another. My point was, I never saw you post a thread with Ruff not being the answer at MLB, as your subject, after he was brought in.
I just think you BS sometimes, I think it amuses you to know that you have the ability to rub people the wrong way. Don\'t ask for specific instances, I\'m liable to give you answers like, \"Yeah, yeah, yeah...\"

EDIT: And JKool, I joke with you cause you\'re cool in my book. Sometimes it\'s dry humor, but you get the picture. It\'s all in fun.

[Edited on 1/3/2005 by BlackandBlue]

Courtney Watson
 

EDIT: I thought I\'d replied in kind?

EDIT EDIT: I.e. I understood and no worries.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: :mcgregor:

[Edited on 1/3/2005 by JKool]

Courtney Watson
 

BlackandBlue --

Hey, when I say that Haslett and co. have done a good job of selling fans on Courtney Watson ... What I mean is that I think Haslett has sold fans (myself included) on our linebackers for quite a while. Now, I\'m not say fans are simply sold because of what Haslett has said in the past. But, I do think fans start to beleive some of the hype that comes out of Saints\' camp.

That statement wasn\'t intended to offend anyone, and I\'m sure not the first guy on this board to make that statement.

In regards to what formation the defense was in when I saw Watson out of position ... I have no specifics and I\'m really just going by memory. Granted, I don\'t have enough factual evidence to say exactly how well Watson played. It just seemed to me that he could have played much better. Even for a rookie.

My point in starting this thread really wasn\'t to say Watson was a bum or anything like that. Instead, what I meant to get accross is that I think MLB is the most important position of all the linebackers and I don\'t think we\'re best served with Courtney Watson there. No matter what Jim Haslett may say, I think it\'s mistake.



[Edited on 1/3/2005 by GumboBC]

Courtney Watson
 

what\'s terribly Ironic about this arguement is that it could be applied to other positions as well...in fact one that Gumbo states doesn\'t ever admit to making mistakes.

Courtney Watson
 

I\'m pretty sure that Br :cool: :cool: ks isn\'t going to be the next Ray Lewis either. :)

Courtney Watson
 

WARNING!! WARNGING!! The following material is meant as a joke. Any relation to actual events is strictly coincidental. AB discretion is advised!


Sounds like agenda talk to me.

Here\'s the original:


Now, try this:

I have no vendetta against any Saints\' player...

From MY point of view, [BILLY], [AARON BROOKS] has a lot to prove before I\'m satisfied that he\'s THE guy. Just because I have some concerns about the guy does not mean I\'m hating on [BROOKS].

[BROOKS] may [FINALLY] do well in his [FIFTH] season [AS STARTER]. Then again, he may not. If he doesn\'t perform the way we need him to, then what? What\'s your plan then, [BILLY]?

My way of thinking is if we get a proven [QB] then we can [HAVE AN OPEN CONTEST AND LET THE BEST QB WIN] and [BROOKS] could still get some reps at [QB] if we want to groom him for that spot.

It\'s a win/win situation.

However, it\'s [BROOKS] or bust if we don\'t pick up someone else.

Believe me, I would like nothing better than for [BROOKS] to have a break-out season. I just really don\'t want to take the risk. Not when we don\'t have to.

Look, it\'s debateable [WHETHER THE QB] position is the most important. I think it [IS]. It really makes no difference. We need both a good [STARTING QB AND BACK UP/FUTURE STARTER].

I\'ll say this again ... Because we have be as inept at [QB] for so long, I might just be frustrated and be overreacting. But, that\'s the way I feel. I\'m ready for that not to be a concern anymore.


Hhhhmmm... now if I said that, how would Billy respond? Would he point to that last paragraph and suggest that I really am overreacting and letting my personal feelings (of hate) affect my judgment - thus skewing it? This sounds an awful lot like agenda talk to me. :)

Courtney Watson
 

Man, I am glad someone finally connected the dots, and it wasn\'t me. I think BNB was sniffing at it earlier, and baron. Nice substitutions. :o

Courtney Watson
 

WhoDat --

I have no problem with anyone who suggests we would be better off with another QB. What I\'ve always had a problem with is \"folks\" trying to pin everything in the world on Brooks.

I\'d be willing to settle for a rookie \"stud\" linebacker to come in and replace a one-year starter in Courtney Watson. But, I would not be willing to let a rookie QB come in and start for Aaron Brooks.

If you can get me Peyton Manning, Culpepper, McNabb or one of the other top QBs in the NFL, then bring \'em in here and let\'s get rid of Brooks.

Last thing:

I\'m well aware that Courtney Watson is not totally to blame for the defense\'s lack of success. And I never tried to pin all the blame on him like some folks have done Brooks. And that is the difference, my man... ;)

Did this just turn into a Brooks\'s debate? LOL... Oh, well, this thread had about died anyway...LMAO!

Courtney Watson
 

too funny- I had thought that from the beginning..but didn\'t want to be the one to point it out.

the REAL question is then..what is more important your QB or you MLB/OLB?

Courtney Watson
 

Good question, baronm. How many superbowls has Peyton Manning won? Ray Lewis? The Pats linebackes?

Courtney Watson
 

yeah..but could ray lewis have been having an off year and the ravens still win? was the pats win because of their linebackers?

I think when looking at impact positions..linebackers are important..but a good squad can beat one or two great players..I think QB and RB are positions that can impact the game quicker...but honestly that\'s another thread.

Courtney Watson
 

Aaron Brooks in a non-related thread? No way!!

Please everyone, for the love of Mike, stop bringing AB into every topic.

Courtney Watson
 

So then you\'re in favor of players with less tangible skills and more heart, termination, smarts, and team spirit? Guys who don\'t have big names and big contracts, but who do nothing but go out and prove it every week? Hang on, why do you like Brooks again? LOL. :)


PS - SORRY TO ALL. I really didn\'t mean to make this an AB thing, but I just couldn\'t pass that opportunity.

Courtney Watson
 

:killtard:

Courtney Watson
 

:rocketwhore: :peer:

Courtney Watson
 

Actually, it was very well done. But, there\'s the cease fire and all ... LOL! :P

Much like the case of :censored: , who should have his job right now, unkind words about :censored: will no longer be tolerated...