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WhoDat!656 02-16-2016 02:40 PM

Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension?
 
I would say yes and add stupid!

Is Brees Considered Greedy If He Decides Against Extension?

hagan714 02-16-2016 03:49 PM

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no i would not but at least I would have an idea what it would take in Drews camp to sign an extension.

Next I would shop him and try to have a sign and trade deal in place in time for the draft.

rezburna 02-16-2016 04:32 PM

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I just hope he does and opens up some cap room so I don't have to go through another January and February without Saints football.

QBREES9 02-16-2016 04:33 PM

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No,

ChrisXVI 02-16-2016 04:38 PM

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We don't know that Loomis has any intention of extending Brees. Of course it makes sense, but who knows what may happen.

Danno 02-16-2016 05:12 PM

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What would be the prevailing thought then? Would it be said as some fans have suggested in the past, that Brees is being “greedy” because he won’t give back part of the money that he has EARNED?
I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back.

An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money.

So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money?

Seer1 02-16-2016 06:01 PM

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How would you be feeling if someone cut your pay by $10,000,000.00- $15,000,000.00?


Damn, what a crazy world...

Euphoria 02-16-2016 06:11 PM

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I can't see how you can call him stupid -

Look if I had 1-2 years left of playing - why not cash in? I say it is called smart!!!

ScottF 02-16-2016 06:11 PM

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When Brees held out last time he ended up getting market value, but on the high end. Remember that Peyton had recently signed with Denver for more than expected, driving up the top 5 (franchise ) rate.
At the time Brees was getting about 20% of our payroll. Not unheard of, but that's a big chunk.

Now our cap situation is even more dire, but Brees is also $100 million richer. Last time it was 'taking care of my family', etc. Now he has 100 plus makes another 10 mill in endorsements annually.

You can't begrudge someone for taking whatever they can get, but the question does need to be asked--How much more money does he really need?

Danno 02-16-2016 06:18 PM

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saintfan 02-16-2016 07:09 PM

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Greedy. No. I don't think there's a greedy bone in his body from all I can tell. Business smart? Pretty sure of that much.

I don't care how much I've made. I want to make more. That's human nature, not greed.

RaginCajun83 02-16-2016 07:53 PM

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No

NonieT 02-16-2016 07:57 PM

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Why would he turn down an extension when he's already said he doesn't want to play anywhere else?

RaginCajun83 02-16-2016 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 693157)
Why would he turn down an extension when he's already said he doesn't want to play anywhere else?

to pull a Farve? "Retire" and show up in Atlanta

44Champs 02-16-2016 11:27 PM

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What does he want more: the money or a better chance at winning another superbowl? That's really what it boils down to.

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blackangold 02-17-2016 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 693142)
I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back.

An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money.

So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money?

Not everyone understands how it works.

Drew would get more money this year if he were to sign a extension. If Brees wants to continue playing for the Saints there is literally no downside for him signing a longer contract.

lee909 02-17-2016 04:05 AM

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Nothing greedy at all
The deal was agreed a few years back and all camps were happy. Everyone knew it was back loaded. He is getting thevmoney agreed nothing more. He's not held out for more before the deal ends like Revis has before. No issue if he doesn't agree a extension,but if he doesn't ill only question his ambition for more rings

Rugby Saint II 02-17-2016 02:03 PM

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Foolish is what I think he would be. Does he want to play several more years? If so he needs an O-line to protect him. Before Drew retires Armstead will get a premium contract and the Saints have to pay Unger too.

The Dude 02-17-2016 07:33 PM

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No. its his business and his perrogative. We have no idea what he plans to do with life after football. He could be saving to invest in a later business venture. It is really none of our business and not our place to pass judgment on a man we do not know personally. I hate these stupid questions.

RaginCajun83 02-18-2016 01:14 AM

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one of the idiots were on NFLN today saying that Brees and the Saints will get an extension done but there's no date set for completing it but it should happen before training camp and this clown also said that the Saints won't be big players in March, I don't believe him

Halo 02-18-2016 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 693154)
Greedy. No. I don't think there's a greedy bone in his body from all I can tell. Business smart? Pretty sure of that much.

I don't care how much I've made. I want to make more. That's human nature, not greed.

You greedy bastard! I bet you don't tip!!!!
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SmashMouth 02-18-2016 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 693154)
Greedy. No. I don't think there's a greedy bone in his body from all I can tell. Business smart? Pretty sure of that much.

I don't care how much I've made. I want to make more. That's human nature, not greed.

Taylor Swift wants you to make more so that she can date you. :broccoli:

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SaintsBro 02-18-2016 11:03 AM

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The people who already consider him "greedy" will continue to think that he is greedy, no matter what he does.

There's nothing Drew could do that would ever change those people's minds, short of tearing up the whole contract, playing the rest of his career for free, and then they'd want him to rack up a stack of 3 consecutive Lombardis over the next 3 years, and then they'd want him to personally come visit them at their house with the trophies in his car, and sign a bunch of merchandise for them to sell on Ebay or do magic tricks at their son's birthday party or hang out at their favorite bar, or give them a huge diamond ring or a new Playstation or whatever they want to ask him for. Then, maybe just maybe they'd be happy with him. That's just how some people are.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 693125)

Who is this dumbass? Brees has already stated he is more than willing to an extension. Talk about a waste of oxygen.

:rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 02-18-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 693259)
one of the idiots were on NFLN today saying that Brees and the Saints will get an extension done but there's no date set for completing it but it should happen before training camp and this clown also said that the Saints won't be big players in March, I don't believe him

That "idiot" was completely right about Brees. It makes no sense whatsoever to rush to any sort of deal. I will guarantee you that both sides have agreed to doing a deal, but not until all other factors are known. And I also agree that the Saints do not need to be too very active in free agency.

hagan714 02-19-2016 02:24 AM

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when you look at the dead cap money one can structure to help the team make moves. Drew has done this more than once but the saints inflated the final years to a point it seems crazy.

Does Drew deserve to get paid? yes no questions about it

But even the richest can at times look at whats best for the whole and not just themselves. Those that do not are greedy

How much is enough to secure a future?

Drew should have enough set aside to pull a Brady for the team this time around.

Seer1 02-19-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 693307)
That "idiot" was completely right about Brees. It makes no sense whatsoever to rush to any sort of deal. I will guarantee you that both sides have agreed to doing a deal, but not until all other factors are known. And I also agree that the Saints do not need to be too very active in free agency.

Actually, they've already agreed to the terms and all other nuts and bolts of the extension. It's just that a bunch of talking heads from the various sports blah blah outlets have paid Loomis a bunch of $$$ to keep it quiet for a while so they'll have something else to make more stuff up about and stay employed during this fact packed NFL news period. There just aren't enough openings for speech writers in the presidential campaign to give them all paychecks.

burningmetal 02-19-2016 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 693142)
I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back.

An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money.

So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money?

Yeah the greed argument should only apply toward the original contract, if you want to go there. But not accepting an extension wouldn't be greedy, it would just be kind of dumb. Unless he thinks he can get more elsewhere.

I suppose that's possible. Someone can be dumb like the Broncos were and give a QB in his late thirties a mega-deal to have a couple of good seasons followed by a couple of total crap seasons.

AsylumGuido 02-19-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 693357)
Yeah the greed argument should only apply toward the original contract, if you want to go there. But not accepting an extension wouldn't be greedy, it would just be kind of dumb. Unless he thinks he can get more elsewhere.

I suppose that's possible. Someone can be dumb like the Broncos were and give a QB in his late thirties a mega-deal to have a couple of good seasons followed by a couple of total crap seasons.

And you can't even apply the greed argument to his original contract. Anyone with half a brain could see where QB salaries were headed. Fortunately the Saints were in a position to lock up Brees when they had a chance. Two years later the market value for a QB with his resume would have been quite a bit greater. Glorified backups forced to start are now garnering contracts equivalent to Brees' current contract.

burningmetal 02-19-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 693369)
And you can't even apply the greed argument to his original contract. Anyone with half a brain could see where QB salaries were headed. Fortunately the Saints were in a position to lock up Brees when they had a chance. Two years later the market value for a QB with his resume would have been quite a bit greater. Glorified backups forced to start are now garnering contracts equivalent to Brees' current contract.

And I don't think he's greedy, but that's the one place where you can even make an argument. The fact that the market value keeps inflating at such a rapid pace is a testament to the overall greed of the sport. "I want what he has, gimme more", even though few of them have earned it. People can say what they want about not turning down money, but let's not act like these players are just being given this money without first demanding and whining about what they think they deserve. Once you've made well over 100 million dollars, you really can't say that you're looking for financial security. It becomes greed.

So I absolutely believe there is a ton of greed in sports, but I don't consider Drew in that category. Is he really worth that much money? Not really. But based on his value as compared to other QB's, yes. So in that sense he HAS earned it. It does not help the team much when these guys command that much salary, but that's another discussion that has taken place on here many times.


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