Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension?

WhoDat!656 · 02-16-2016, 02:40 PM

I would say yes and add stupid!

Is Brees Considered Greedy If He Decides Against Extension?

hagan714 · 02-16-2016, 03:49 PM

no i would not but at least I would have an idea what it would take in Drews camp to sign an extension.

Next I would shop him and try to have a sign and trade deal in place in time for the draft.

rezburna · 02-16-2016, 04:32 PM

I just hope he does and opens up some cap room so I don't have to go through another January and February without Saints football.

QBREES9 · 02-16-2016, 04:33 PM

No,

ChrisXVI · 02-16-2016, 04:38 PM

We don't know that Loomis has any intention of extending Brees. Of course it makes sense, but who knows what may happen.

Danno · 02-16-2016, 05:12 PM

What would be the prevailing thought then? Would it be said as some fans have suggested in the past, that Brees is being “greedy” because he won’t give back part of the money that he has EARNED?

I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back.

An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money.

So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money?

blackangold · 02-17-2016, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back.

An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money.

So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money?

Not everyone understands how it works.

Drew would get more money this year if he were to sign a extension. If Brees wants to continue playing for the Saints there is literally no downside for him signing a longer contract.

burningmetal · 02-19-2016, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back.

An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money.

So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money?

Yeah the greed argument should only apply toward the original contract, if you want to go there. But not accepting an extension wouldn't be greedy, it would just be kind of dumb. Unless he thinks he can get more elsewhere.

I suppose that's possible. Someone can be dumb like the Broncos were and give a QB in his late thirties a mega-deal to have a couple of good seasons followed by a couple of total crap seasons.

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2016, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Yeah the greed argument should only apply toward the original contract, if you want to go there. But not accepting an extension wouldn't be greedy, it would just be kind of dumb. Unless he thinks he can get more elsewhere.

I suppose that's possible. Someone can be dumb like the Broncos were and give a QB in his late thirties a mega-deal to have a couple of good seasons followed by a couple of total crap seasons.

And you can't even apply the greed argument to his original contract. Anyone with half a brain could see where QB salaries were headed. Fortunately the Saints were in a position to lock up Brees when they had a chance. Two years later the market value for a QB with his resume would have been quite a bit greater. Glorified backups forced to start are now garnering contracts equivalent to Brees' current contract.

burningmetal · 02-19-2016, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And you can't even apply the greed argument to his original contract. Anyone with half a brain could see where QB salaries were headed. Fortunately the Saints were in a position to lock up Brees when they had a chance. Two years later the market value for a QB with his resume would have been quite a bit greater. Glorified backups forced to start are now garnering contracts equivalent to Brees' current contract.

And I don't think he's greedy, but that's the one place where you can even make an argument. The fact that the market value keeps inflating at such a rapid pace is a testament to the overall greed of the sport. "I want what he has, gimme more", even though few of them have earned it. People can say what they want about not turning down money, but let's not act like these players are just being given this money without first demanding and whining about what they think they deserve. Once you've made well over 100 million dollars, you really can't say that you're looking for financial security. It becomes greed.

So I absolutely believe there is a ton of greed in sports, but I don't consider Drew in that category. Is he really worth that much money? Not really. But based on his value as compared to other QB's, yes. So in that sense he HAS earned it. It does not help the team much when these guys command that much salary, but that's another discussion that has taken place on here many times.

02-16-2016, 02:40 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? I would say yes and add stupid! Is Brees Considered Greedy If He Decides Against Extension?

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? no i would not but at least I would have an idea what it would take in Drews camp to sign an extension. Next I would shop him and try to have a sign and trade deal in place in time for the draft.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? I just hope he does and opens up some cap room so I don't have to go through another January and February without Saints football.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? No,

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? We don't know that Loomis has any intention of extending Brees. Of course it makes sense, but who knows what may happen. hagan714 likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? What would be the prevailing thought then? Would it be said as some fans have suggested in the past, that Brees is being “greedy” because he won’t give back part of the money that he has EARNED? I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back. An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money. So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money? SaintFanInATLHELL, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

02-17-2016, 12:03 AM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? Originally Posted by Danno I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back. An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money. So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money? Not everyone understands how it works. Drew would get more money this year if he were to sign a extension. If Brees wants to continue playing for the Saints there is literally no downside for him signing a longer contract.

02-19-2016, 10:13 AM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? Originally Posted by Danno I'm surprised people still think an extension is the equivalent of giving money back. An extension will earn him more money and more guaranteed money. So how can he be greedy by turning down more money and more guaranteed money? Yeah the greed argument should only apply toward the original contract, if you want to go there. But not accepting an extension wouldn't be greedy, it would just be kind of dumb. Unless he thinks he can get more elsewhere. I suppose that's possible. Someone can be dumb like the Broncos were and give a QB in his late thirties a mega-deal to have a couple of good seasons followed by a couple of total crap seasons.

02-19-2016, 11:51 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? Originally Posted by burningmetal Yeah the greed argument should only apply toward the original contract, if you want to go there. But not accepting an extension wouldn't be greedy, it would just be kind of dumb. Unless he thinks he can get more elsewhere. I suppose that's possible. Someone can be dumb like the Broncos were and give a QB in his late thirties a mega-deal to have a couple of good seasons followed by a couple of total crap seasons. And you can't even apply the greed argument to his original contract. Anyone with half a brain could see where QB salaries were headed. Fortunately the Saints were in a position to lock up Brees when they had a chance. Two years later the market value for a QB with his resume would have been quite a bit greater. Glorified backups forced to start are now garnering contracts equivalent to Brees' current contract.

02-19-2016, 01:14 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is Brees Considered "Greedy" If He Decides Against Extension? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And you can't even apply the greed argument to his original contract. Anyone with half a brain could see where QB salaries were headed. Fortunately the Saints were in a position to lock up Brees when they had a chance. Two years later the market value for a QB with his resume would have been quite a bit greater. Glorified backups forced to start are now garnering contracts equivalent to Brees' current contract. And I don't think he's greedy, but that's the one place where you can even make an argument. The fact that the market value keeps inflating at such a rapid pace is a testament to the overall greed of the sport. "I want what he has, gimme more", even though few of them have earned it. People can say what they want about not turning down money, but let's not act like these players are just being given this money without first demanding and whining about what they think they deserve. Once you've made well over 100 million dollars, you really can't say that you're looking for financial security. It becomes greed. So I absolutely believe there is a ton of greed in sports, but I don't consider Drew in that category. Is he really worth that much money? Not really. But based on his value as compared to other QB's, yes. So in that sense he HAS earned it. It does not help the team much when these guys command that much salary, but that's another discussion that has taken place on here many times.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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