Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents

03-13-2016, 06:31 PM

I'm hoping for a Graham type trade again. Good picks will pay dividens in the future. I don't care what type of cap hit it cost I would shop Jordan.

Euphoria · 03-13-2016, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

there are plenty of young players out there that can upgrade this defense.

anyone would be considered an upgrade.

Euphoria · 03-13-2016, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Our Super Bowl team was made up of a lot of free agents and/or guys we acquired in a trade. Shockey, Sharper, Vilma, Fujita, Greer, Hargrove, McCray, Goodwin, Heath Evans, Mike Bell, David Thomas, and even Shanle.

Oh yeah, and Drew Brees.

Ideally, you'd like to build through the draft, but it's not like you can't upgrade your team in other ways. You just have to be good at what you're doing, and do a better job of identifying good players who won't break the bank. Since that championship team was constructed there has been a huge letdown in scouting and developing players, and also in making balanced financial decisions (not over-paying for one or two guys, and spreading it out with quality veterans instead).

At this point, I know there isn't enough left to do much else in free agency this year. Hoping for a few guys do fall in our proverbial lap in the draft.

I think a lot of people forget that.

jeanpierre · 03-13-2016, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I'm hoping for a Graham type trade again. Good picks will pay dividens in the future. I don't care what type of cap hit it cost I would shop Jordan.

Halloween...You know you say that...

but I can see recent draftees being traded to better fit Allen's 4-3...

We traded a very good tackle in Akiem Hicks for a backup tight end...

RaginCajun83 · 03-13-2016, 08:38 PM

Hicks is a free agent that has gotten ZERO offers, he was far from a good tackle

hagan714 · 03-13-2016, 08:46 PM

Both short term prove it type of contracts

Brandon Thompson, DT, Bengals
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profil...son?id=2532959
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...andon-thompson
Bacarri Rambo
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profil...mbo?id=2539234
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8591/bacarri-rambo

SmashMouth · 03-13-2016, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Hicks is a free agent that has gotten ZERO offers, he was far from a good tackle

Not so fast, my little HouDat!

Former Saints DT Akiem Hicks signs 2-year deal with Chicago Bears | NOLA.com

Danno · 03-13-2016, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We traded a very good tackle in Akiem Hicks for a backup tight end...

Every TE in the NFL would be a back-up on the Pats.

jeanpierre · 03-14-2016, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Every TE in the NFL would be a back-up on the Pats.

Meaning we traded a starting defensive linemen for the Saints for a tight end that was a backup for the Saints...

Now he obviously fell out of favor - why?!? that's what I'd like to hear...

But the yield is undeniable and bears scrutiny...

hagan714 · 03-14-2016, 05:23 AM

Brandon Boykin, CB, Steelers. Age: 26 Under appreciated slot CB

what kind of money? should be south of this
Casey Hayward, CB, Packers to chargers.Age: 26
3 yrs/15.3 million

surprising starter that fared pretty well at slot last year
Sterling Moore, CB, Buccaneers. Age: 26 ?

03-13-2016, 06:31 PM	#11
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03-13-2016, 06:40 PM	#12
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents Originally Posted by hagan714 there are plenty of young players out there that can upgrade this defense. anyone would be considered an upgrade. hagan714 likes this.

03-13-2016, 06:44 PM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents Originally Posted by burningmetal Our Super Bowl team was made up of a lot of free agents and/or guys we acquired in a trade. Shockey, Sharper, Vilma, Fujita, Greer, Hargrove, McCray, Goodwin, Heath Evans, Mike Bell, David Thomas, and even Shanle. Oh yeah, and Drew Brees. Ideally, you'd like to build through the draft, but it's not like you can't upgrade your team in other ways. You just have to be good at what you're doing, and do a better job of identifying good players who won't break the bank. Since that championship team was constructed there has been a huge letdown in scouting and developing players, and also in making balanced financial decisions (not over-paying for one or two guys, and spreading it out with quality veterans instead). At this point, I know there isn't enough left to do much else in free agency this year. Hoping for a few guys do fall in our proverbial lap in the draft. I think a lot of people forget that. hagan714 likes this.

03-13-2016, 07:47 PM	#14
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents Originally Posted by halloween 65 I'm hoping for a Graham type trade again. Good picks will pay dividens in the future. I don't care what type of cap hit it cost I would shop Jordan. Halloween...You know you say that... but I can see recent draftees being traded to better fit Allen's 4-3... We traded a very good tackle in Akiem Hicks for a backup tight end...

03-13-2016, 08:38 PM	#15
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents Hicks is a free agent that has gotten ZERO offers, he was far from a good tackle

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03-13-2016, 10:10 PM	#17
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Hicks is a free agent that has gotten ZERO offers, he was far from a good tackle Not so fast, my little HouDat! Former Saints DT Akiem Hicks signs 2-year deal with Chicago Bears \| NOLA.com

03-13-2016, 10:40 PM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents Originally Posted by jeanpierre We traded a very good tackle in Akiem Hicks for a backup tight end... Every TE in the NFL would be a back-up on the Pats.

03-14-2016, 01:51 AM	#19
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents Originally Posted by Danno Every TE in the NFL would be a back-up on the Pats. Meaning we traded a starting defensive linemen for the Saints for a tight end that was a backup for the Saints... Now he obviously fell out of favor - why?!? that's what I'd like to hear... But the yield is undeniable and bears scrutiny...

03-14-2016, 05:23 AM	#20
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints could be looking to add to young core on defense instead of going after free agents Brandon Boykin, CB, Steelers. Age: 26 Under appreciated slot CB what kind of money? should be south of this Casey Hayward, CB, Packers to chargers.Age: 26 3 yrs/15.3 million surprising starter that fared pretty well at slot last year Sterling Moore, CB, Buccaneers. Age: 26 ? halloween 65 and K Major like this.