Crazy, Off The Charts Draft Scenarios
 

Okay, thought we could have some fun today and post really crazy moves the Saints could pull in the draft that would totally blow everyone out of the water...

I'll start...

Tennessee Titans and New Orleans Saints announce trade...

Tennessee Titans send the No. 1 overall pick in the draft and a third round pick (No. 64 pick) to the New Orleans Saints...

New Orleans Saints send their first round pick (no. 12 overall) and LT Terron Armstead to the Tennessee Titans...

How this helps both teams...

For Tennessee that get a level of certainty with an established Left Tackle to protect their franchise quarterback; and, at pick No. 12, they still get an impact draft pick to help their team...

For New Orleans, the next gen quarterback comes on board and gets a year to learn under Payton/Brees; they relieve themselves of the challenge of re-signing Armstead, open the LT position for Andrus Peat, his natural position, with cap friendly numbers for the next four years; with the early third round pick, it gives the Saints more options to find help on the right side of the offensive line...

Why it won't happen...

While Tennessee would be getting some real value in Armstead, they're going to want more and wouldn't be willing to give up that third round pick even though the teams would essentially be swapping two players for two players...

New Orleans brain-trust may still be thinking they can win one more championship and believe Brees can finish a regular season and post season with his aging body and may not be ready to abandon that thread; also, Andrus Peat has struggled and it may not all be because he's out of his comfort zone at Left Tackle...

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That is indeed crazy. I think if the Saints move up it would be for the chance to draft Myles Jack. And that shouldn't take a move up to #1. This QB class is so-so. Wentz and Goff would be #3-4 in last year's QB class. That isn't worth a move up to get.

My money on on them moving back and still getting good value on D if they don't just stay put.

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Jack could go as high as No. 2 if Tennessee chose to select Ramsey at No. 1...

Exile, what kinda deal would you see the Saints concocting?!?

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Only one player in my book worth trading up for IMO. Jalen Ramsey

Saints Trade 12, 47 and 1st in 2017 and to San Diego for #3

trade back with Baltimore for 6, 36, 104. Raven Jalen Ramsey

Trade back with the Rams for 15 45 and there 2017 1st round pick Rams Jared Goff.

Trade 15 to Minnesota for 23 conditional 2nd in 2017 Eli Apple

23 Josh Doctson WR TCU
36 Vetron Butler DT LA Tech
45 Darian Thompson FS/SS Boise St
78 Javon Hargrave, DT South Carolina State
104 Sean Davis SS/FS/CB Maryland
112 Matt Judon, DE, Grand Valley State
152 Willie Beavers OT/OG Eastern Michigan
237 Caleb Benenoch OT/OG UCLA
2017 1st round pick (Rams) 2nd (Vikings)

We trade up with no intentions of staying put. Only to trade down

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Now that's some kind of crazy Hagan. :p

Hows about the Saints just picking up a 3rd or 4th by trading back a few slots. Then taking Rankins or Billings or Reed in the 1st. Maybe A'Shawn since he seems to be slipping if those three are gone.

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You guys have entirely too much time on your hands.

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Well, while you're here, what kind of deal could you see the Saints pulling?!?

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No Fear! That's pretty crazy schtuff...

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I don't see them making any deals unless one of the qbs fall than maybe and highly doubtful they trade back. My choice is they stay at 12 and take the best pure pass rusher they can get.

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If you wanna have crazy thoughts than trade Drew to the Broncos for a 1st this year a second and fourth next year and a 1st or 2nd in 2018

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Hell, we trade Drew for Von Miller and Wade Phillips. Then trade the twelve pick for someone else who's even more desperate for Ramsey (According to the stats, that would only be the Giants who would've somehow traded their ten pick to Los Angeles for their three picks in the first two -You figure out that how and why.) Who then forwards them to us as we've finally figured out that the D coaching and pass rush is the real reason for our suck ass 31st ranked (by stats) passing D....

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Here's a crazy scenario for you.. the saints stay put at 12 and select...... Paxton Lynch. Mind = blown.

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Saintshrimp - thanks for the laughs!! [emoji1]

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None of this ever happen.

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Thus the title

Crazy, Off The Charts Draft Scenarios

yes we have way to much time on our hands

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That's crazy man..........crazy.:crazy:

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Okay, now that's the kinda crazy, off the charts comments we're soliciting...

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A warm bath, some good liquor, and many across saints nation would open their wrists...LOL

Shoot, think most everyone is giving me grief for wanting to ignore interior defensive line in the first round and wanting the BPA in Laquon Treadwell...

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Jordan for a 1st or early 2nd, Vacorro for a early 3rd. Funny thing is we have 2 LT, Armstead and Peat, Armstead is proven and Peat is cheap right now, possibly one get traded, Armstead brings in a 1st and 4th, not sure what we could get for Peat but I wouldn't give him away. I think he would do pretty good at LT. We could own this draft and bundle to get who ever we wanted. Come on down Mr. Ramsey, come on down.

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No way. Our O line is already suspect even with Armstead in who is becoming a premier lineman in the league. You dont give away your best player at a position you are still trying to build. Especially a relatively young and cheap one like Armstead.

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I wouldn't be opposed to trading Cam Jordan if we got enough high picks in return to replace and add, and get some future cap relief as well as get younger at the position...

Gotta a feeling Goodell's gotta itch and Cam's going to get four unpaid weeks off this season anyways...

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Well, no it hasn't; but if it did, what could you see happening?!?

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I happen to know a guy, who knows a girl, who knows a girl, who works in accounting for the Superdome, who knows a guy, who cleans the turf and knows a guy, who knows a trainer for the Saints, who knows a Scout. Word is that the Saints are moving to #1 for Elliot. Just passing along this solid rumor.

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Exile, I've seen History of the World, Part 1 and it's not 'cake or death?' it's 'hump or death?'

You should really know your history ;)

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Sarik, good to see you back...

If Vernon Butler makes it out of the first round, or even the top twenty-five picks, I'd be totally shocked...

Have been a big fan of Kaufusi and hoping he sneaks by to us, same with Gotsis - both are versatile and are absolute monsters in waiting...

Am trending away from Garnett and Stanford Offensive Linemen for that matter; there's just something not happening there...

Like Schobert too, but like ILB Nick Vigil even more and would like to see Vigil drafted for our WLB spot and then let him transition behind Laurinaitis...

Really only need one more good interior offensive lineman, Peat doesn't seem likely to unseat Strief, so Peat will probably be our left guard for now...

Unlike some here, really pumped for Tim Lelito to make the next step, shoring up his pass protection and become a top RIGHT guard, his natural position from Grand Valley State days...

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Of note, the Saints during Coach Payton's tenure have never traded back in the first round...

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Thanks Jeanpierre, I agree 100%. I LOVE Kaufusi & Gotsis in round 2/3or4 for us. Kaufusi has a little Henry Anderson to his game who i loved last year, but he's better at this point even thought i thought Anderson flew a little under the radar last year. Gotsis has some Derek Wolfe but needs coaching as he's still raw. You cant help but love his measurables as well. I put Garnett there for the thought of SP taking a lineman we're not expecting, theres some traits i like from Garnett but i agree. I just want an OL with a meanstreak, he shows that sometimes. Vigil>schobert imo as well, love his athleticism.i think we see eye to eye on most things draft bud.

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No other deals?!?

CB Keenan Lewis?!? for a third round pick?!?

RB C.J. Spiller for an offensive guard?!?

Beuller?!? Beuller?!?

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actual the way all the mocks and big boards are set up right now I see CB as the main target for a trade down to happen. unless a QB falls into our laps.

Oakland
12 for 14 (100)
swap 47 for 44 (30)
swap 79 for 74 (15)
114 (66)

Rams
12 for 15 (150)
swap 47 for 43 (40)
110. (74)

there has been some rumor that the pats may trade up in round 2

79 for 60 and 91?

Then there is phili who might trade back into round 2 if a trade in round 1 can not be reached.


Any ways I think the swapping and moving up in round 2 even a few spot will huge. This could be a Jaylon Smith pick type of swap. If the medicals check out gotta get ahead of the Bears at the very least. I am not ruling out Smith at 12 if it checks out 100%. heck of a gamble. lol

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Cornerback, huh?!? I'm thinking William Jackson III, Houston would be the target if that happen...

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Eli Apple and Mackensie Alexander are in that mix also. CB needs are the one thing all three have in common. after Ramsey and Hardgreaves are off the board Things start going south real fast. Even though I am not a huge Hardgraves fan. I think the #3 CB will not make it past Miami. IMO will be Eli Apple.

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Crazy, yup!

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CB? There are a lot of these guys I didn't see much of, but I did watch Apple a lot. I'm wondering if his success was due in great part to an amazing pass rush. If we're really shopping for a CB, shouldn't we look for a guy who did pretty good playing for a team with a crappy DL?

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Seer.. excellent question. I think most NFL scouts are looking for certain traits in a Pro prospect at corner regardless of who plays in front of them. Technique, instincts, speed, tackling ability & job knowledge (knowing coverages). Even some of the better NFL team scouts can check all of the boxes on a player and still not have a feel for how they will do in a different scheme or pass rush up front.

I truly believe that level of competition & production are great, however those aforementioned traits, coachability (not sure that is a word) & ability are as equally important.

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Great post! However, I must ask, is coach even a word on our defensive side of the ball? :-)