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Surprise, surprise. That\'s pretty funny. Saying we tagged him not cause we had a plan for trading him, but cause we had the cap room. This org is great. I guess that 4 game end the season streak was enough for them to hope the draft will get us by. This is amazing, in a very bad way. :casstet:

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This, in my opinion, if far more fact than fiction. Not your best effort to be sure.

Let\'s just say this has been the source of some of your best work. ;)

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Again...I trust him more than anyone currently in the Saints org. so this is quite discouraging. :casstet:

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i\'ve got my hope for the season... no plan is better than a bad plan. LOL

frustration is boiling on every saint site i peruse.
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would like to know what the hell the front office is doing. I hear rumors of where certain guys could be heading such as Ty Law being targeted by Indianapolis and Cleveland, Samari Rolle possibly going to Washington, or Fred Smoot possibly going to Dallas. I never hear of the Saints being involved in any trades or targeting any of the high profile free agents that have been released. Are they just going to sit back and pick from the bottom of the barrell.

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Ok, everyone, it is going to be alright. I\'m sorry there aren\'t enough rumors to float people\'s boats. Remember though, we don\'t need every man and his dog, and signing a big player before we trade Howard will just make it obvious that we have to trade him (which may effect his value some) - since our cap number is so bad right now.

There are still several LBs and OTs of interest left (and a handful of other interesting players), including:
Andre Dyson, Edge Hartwell (though he may not last much longer), Kendrell Bell, Will Witherspoon, Ian Gold, Kareem McKenzie, Floyd Womak (who is underrated), Fred Miller, Chris Claiborne, David Thornton, and even guys like Petersen and Pace, though they\'ve been franchized have not been signed.

It is still early, and we may be able to get significant upgrades after the market settles a little.

To be honest, I\'ve never liked that we\'ve been conservative in FA the last few years, and I think we\'re in for more of the same. However, I don\'t want to blow the bank on just one guy, we need 3 or 4.

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Floyd Womak

we could really used him.

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I agree! There are a couple of other OTs who are listed as good, on several FA lists, as Riley (though, we know, clearly better) who could help us, without having to break the bank. I\'d like to see us get Womak and an OG, instead of paying through the nose for someone like Pace or Jennings.

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I have to wonder how all this talk of paying through the nose got started? I never heard anyone say that. I have heard that we have not made A MOVE. Nothing. We\'d love to have Womack, where is he? Why hasn\'t he come in? This is where the frustration comes in. They signed Stecker and Young in 2.3 seconds last year after free agency started. Where is ANYONE at a position of need? They don\'t have to get the best available, actually I am 1,000,000% certain they won\'t. But what happens when Womacks signs elsewhere, then this guy, then this guy? DO we then sit back and say, Oh well, they must have a plan for the draft. Again, I would love to have Womack, WHERE IS HE?

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Someone with average blocking skills that can wait for the ball to be snapped would be an improvement, no?

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Oh saintfan, the old me could have turned that argument right around and made it about :censored: with a similar question, but I won\'t. Instead, tell me where this mystery player is and why we haven\'t signed him please.

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Whodi, players can be signed without visiting. Can we all please just calm down a bit. There are LOTs of upgrade players left. Sure some of the stars are gone, but we still have a Howard deal to cut; after that happens, then we can start to panic.

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Yeah, even though I am new on here (and in real life to the Saints...been a fan for only three years.) I have to admit we do have problems up front. I always expect just a little bit, and then here they come getting some people I never heard of (Stecker), and some I didn\'t think would have impacted the team as the FO thought (Young). You people are right, we mostly need to keep a steady core of guys and build around them. My first 6 would have to be Stallworth, Deuce, Bentley, Watson, Grant, and McKenzie. We have to keep them together, and make sure we find people to compliment them. The defensive people aren\'t spectacular, so draft or sign a playmaker (like DJ.) The offensive people can make it through. I have been wanting them to really break out for awhile now, and I think they can with the right guys up front. These are just my thoughts anyways.

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Welcome to the board Zach.

I\'d add a few more than 6 guys, but I see what you\'re getting at, and I agree. We certainly don\'t need 22 super stars (nor could we afford them).

I think the sentiment is just - \"we never do anything in FA\". I think that isn\'t true, but I can see how frustrating that would feel if I believed that it were the case.

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Thank you. I know we do stuff in free agency, it\'s just not the things we need the most.

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Is it true that we never do what we need most?

Sure, we haven\'t managed to get a LB in here in years, which we\'ve needed for years, so I GRANT THIS ONE!

However,
(1) We needed to improve our inside DL. We got Young to team with Sullivan (Sully, a draft pick, failed us).
(2) We needed to replace Roaf, we got Riley and Gandy (both considered around the league, though I suppose we now know better, to be good OTs).
(3) We needed to solidify the TE spot, Loomis brought in Conwell, sure it didn\'t work out so well, but Conwell was a proven and solid TE.
(4) We needed a corner, who got us McKenzie? Loomis.
(5) We needed a safety to replace Knight. We made a move to get T-buck. Again that didn\'t work out, but it isn\'t as if we did NOTHING.
(6) We needed a backup for Duece, and we got Stecker - that WAS a good move.

For all those guys who say we need to take risks to get payoffs, aren\'t players like Young, Tebucky, Stecker, and Conwell risks? Perhaps those are just not big enough risks? Signing a big name guy for a lot of money isn\'t taking a risk - it is getting a pricey guy who SHOULD payoff. The risk is not having room to get more guys in case you need more than one (which we do). I\'m not saying we can\'t afford a big name guy, I\'m just saying, I don\'t understand the arguments just yet.

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Yeah, personally here is how the free agency and draft should go(with the remaining FA\'s)
Sign Oliver Ross and Floyd \"Porkchops: Womack, plus Kevin Bentley
Trade Howard for Drius and a later pick.
First round draft best CB available (maybe Rolle)
Second get Kirk Morrison from SDSU
3rd get BPA
4th get anoth CB or Bryan Randall/ QB
5th young lineman
Whats ur thoughts on this?

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JKool\'s on target here.

1) Young would be rockin\' the interior if Sully\'s lazy a$$ could be persuaded to earn that fat paycheck.
2) Riley and Gandy were indeed considered big FA\'s in their day, and you gotta admit they\'re probably about as good as the scraps we\'re looking at picking up now (Ross? Miller? Even Womack? C\'mon, none of these guys are studs).
3) Conwell has certainly failed us during his tenure here, but was proven when we signed him. How the heck did the Rams know he was about to turn into Captain Brittlebones?
4) McKenzie needs no elaboration...
5) T-Buck was a huge pickup at the time, and he\'s since become one of those players who only wakes up long enough to cash the check. Still, regarding that, T-Buck\'s more to blame than the front office.
6) I agree Stecker\'s a good pick-up. He proved himself when Deuce was hurt, and deserves real credit. I hope the alleged plans to get him more involved in the offense come true. Getting him and Deuce in the backfield at the same time sounds pretty interesting...

I hear ya\' JKool, and I\'m trying to stay optimistic, too. I may very likely be crushed again, but I\'m holding onto hope that something big could be in the works...

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It\'s nice you guys are optimistic, I applaud you both. But that\'s no need to tell others how they should feel. I am frustrated 1000% at this team, doesn\'t make me wrong, makes me a product of previous stupid moves. Belichek KNEW Tesucky was a bum, he was GIDDY when we traded for him. Riley was up and down before he got here with weight, attitude, and play. Think New Orleans would change that? Has it ever? Sullivan was the 5th or 6th best DT when he was drafted as the 6th pick. It IS the front office\'s fault he didn\'t work out, that was a DUMB pick. McKenzie was a good pick up, but we were kinda forced into that one. He was out there and wanted to be traded. Thomas was sucking and Ambrose was getting older by the week. No brainer. I\'m sorry but making dumb moves(outside of MM) is worse than making no moves and I am not gonna excuse that. Gandy was also over 30 when we got him and on the decline. So if I am pissed, I have that right, and don\'t need 100 people commenting on how I need to calm down and wait and all this other stuff. Feel how you wanna feel about this crap AGAIN, and I will feel how I wanna. IF our plan is to hedge all our eggs into the draft basket, that sucks and we are in for another suck ass year.

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It boils down to new orleans being a farm team. Most FA\'s don\'t want to come here because they are already established. If we get one he will be over 32 years old and on the decline. I wouldn\'t be surprised if our first pick decided to pull an Eli and sit out until he got to the team he wanted or hold the saints for a ransom before he plays or then decides not to play. I\'m betting that if we get rid of sulliven whatever team picks him up he\'ll play pro ball. I hope not but i have this feeling. I say keep Howard for a first round pick and a posistion of need player. If we don\'t get it we keep him and we have depth at that position for rotation or injury. Then just go with the draft, and hopefully get someone that will play. Really What FA will come here. we won\'t pay them what they want anyway.

[Edited on 4/3/2005 by lynwood]

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Whodi, I can understand your feelings in one way, but in another way, I can\'t. What is happening now is no different than what happens every year. How many years is it now, 37? 38? This is the way the Saints have always gone about their business. Even on the occasional times that they have tried to do something big, they manage to bungle it.(Ricky Williams...Steve Walsh) I have put up with this type of decision making for so long that it has become expected. It is for that reason that I say that I am a little surprised at your emotions. This is nothing new.

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Hey, man. Neither of us are trying to tell you how to feel about any of this. We\'re just as privy to the past mistakes as everyone else ... we\'re Saints fans, aren\'t we?

I dunno about JKool, but I\'m frustrated 1000% as well. I was no happier with another 8-8 season than you or anybody else was. I don\'t think JKool\'s post was meant as blind acceptance of whatever the front office feeds us - he simply pointed out that the Saints have tried a few moves in the past, with mixed results. The implication being that FA moves to come are not guaranteed to bring success.

Then again, it\'s perfectly valid to be frustrated when NO FA moves are made...

I never said I\'m giving Has and the boys a pass (you should know me better than that), only that I\'ll give \'em time to impress me. The ball\'s been in their court since Wednesday morning...

:peace:

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LB, good to see you, where you been? I can understand where yoyuare coming from, but here was my deal. I let my guard down. I stopped arguing about AB and the defense and allowed some of the sunshine in. I told myself ALL of these guys, head coach, GM, FO, EVERYONE is hanging by a thread, so they will do what must be done to ensure a better season next year, immediately. It didn\'t happen, and I am pissed. But truly, I KNOW what you are saying. O know.

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I know mutey. I am just tired of hearing \"calm down, just wait, be patient\" though. If I wanna be pissed at 12:01 am on the start of free agency I don\'t feel I am unjustified. We have done ZIP NADA ZILCH. I am glad they contacted Pierce, great, BUT THEY HAD NO BACK UP PLAN. SO this means now thay are scrambling and will prob make a stupid move. How can you target one guy AND NOT HAVE A BACK UP PLAN? It\'s just dumb, and I feel him spurning them puts us in a WORSE spot. We are catering to egos now. They don\'t wanna get burned again, cause it will surely get out, and they will be laughed at. No, can\'t have that. So now we are in a no win situation when it comes to free agents. Either we have to overpay or we sit back and see what\'s left. It pisses me off.

O know where you stand mutey, but all this calm down and such was just making me more pissed. Thanks for the talk.

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Fine, be frustrated 1000%.

The argument is this:
(1) It is NOT the case that we don\'t sign FAs. It is also NOT the case that we don\'t sign \"name\" FAs, even since Loomis has been \"in charge\".
(Aside) I\'m glad some people think they know what was going on in Belichek\'s head; I know I don\'t.
(2) You can be as upset all you like about Sully (we DRAFTED him), my point was about Young, who was a good FA pick up.
(3) It is NOT the case that we don\'t address areas of need (except LB, obviously; which IS a mystery to me).
(4) Even if MM wanted to be traded, he didn\'t ask to get traded to the Saints! We went out and got him. Our hand was forced!? Isn\'t it forced now? We need a Safety, a LB, and an OT. We\'re trying to get all of those, at least according to the rumors.
(5) Which of those FA moves that I mentioned was dumb? Maybe T-buck, but after that Gandy, Riley, Young, MM, Conwell were all guys that OTHER TEAMS ALSO WANTED and we got. We even got Stecker, who was below the radar according to my memory, and he turned out well.
(6) I\'ve seen evidence that TWO FAs didn\'t want to come here - Milloy and Pierce. I don\'t see evidence for \"most\"; of course, I\'m open to hearing additional evidence on this one.
(7) We paid Gandy to come here. We paid Conwell to come here. I don\'t see that we \"don\'t pay them what they want\" thing yet; Peirce didn\'t even want to visit - how do you know they didn\'t offer him what he wanted and he still didn\'t want to come?

I\'m just as frustrated as the next guy that we didn\'t get Pierce. However, it is not the case that we STINK in FA and that we do NOTHING. We have made some good moves, even last year. Sure, I wish we were more aggressive, but I don\'t see that it is that bad. If you do, fine; I don\'t, and I\'ve given an argument that is isn\'t that bad... yet.

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mutey, that was my bad, I did say that people should calm down. Apologies

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This stuff about the \"no back up plan\" is confusing me. I think that the reason that people think this is that Mike D, I think, said that Pierce\'s refusal to even visit threw them for a loop. That doesn\'t mean that they don\'t have a backup plan; surely guys who do this for a living don\'t think that any idea is a sure thing. Furthermore, it could just mean that they were shocked he wouldn\'t even visit - that is a colloquial use of \"thrown for a loop\", isn\'t it?

I understand that people feel as though there is no backup plan from this statement, but I don\'t see a lot of evidence for that view other than one statement about Peirce.

Also, there are still a number of first rate LBs out there, including Bell and Hartwell, at least last time I checked.

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I\'m as baffled as you regarding that one. Maybe the Saints underestimated how coveted Pierce would be in FA (and let\'s not forget, the results remain to be seen - he could be another Tesucky, for all we know). There\'s also the possibility that we\'re talking to FA\'s and no one has heard about them yet (Ian Gold, Rob Morris, etc. I hope). Never said I BELIEVE that, but it\'s possible...

Could be I\'m hanging onto the possibility that a Howard trade is gonna bring a big name into New Orleans. For all we really know, there may not even BE a Howard trade.

Sheesh ... all this FA stuff can give you a headache

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Um, all you have to do is read Patriot Reign, it is IN THE BOOK, a book I have suggested be read repeatedly cause it is good. THAT\"S how I know what\'s in Belichek\'s head about Tebucky.

Second, you know Milloy didn\'t wanna visit cause Danno said so? That\'s proof? Okay, I heard someone say we had Hartwell. That\'s my proof.

I don\'t think Young was a good FA pickup.

We don\'t address areas of need. We have no backup QB, and no LBS. We also didn\'t have good corners going into last season. We got Mike midway and we were forced. J.T and a second??? TO went for Brandon Whiting and a 6th round pick. We were forced.

Who else wanted Riley and Conwell and Young? From what I saw, we got Young pretty fast in FA, where is there evidence someone else wanted him? The Rams made no effort to keep him. I also saw noone else make efforts for Stecker.

We paid Gandy cause we were ass out after Roaf and Turley. We HAD to. Again, a decision that was forced and not a matter of choice.

I think we suck at FA, and the players we have gotten prove it. We also suck in the draft outside the 1st round.

I guess we can interpret \"thrown for a loop\" however we want. I, and others, see it as having no backup plan. You don\'t. That\'s lovely Kool. As I said in the other post, I am glad you are optimistic. I see us being about to be forced into doing something stupid, and I am pissed.

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Rob Morris is available? I don\'t remember seeing that. He doesn\'t suck.

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Trust me mutey, I am still holding the hope that Darren Howard will bring us something. Anything. A first round pick or a player. We really have no choice now but to pin our hopes on that.

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Rob Morris is slow as pond water, but okay.

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Anybody notice Whiting was released this week after failing his physical? Jeez, what a waste...

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That\'s how I know our hand was forced, just like the 49ers was. We were at the trade deadline and had a below average situation at CB. JT and a 2nd? Come on. The Packers had a disgruntled corner, who they were willing to let sit if he din\'t wanna play for them. If we wanted him WE HAD to overpay. Forced. Also Moss drew a 1st rounde(#7)r and a starting LB. That\'s when you are not forced into a deal. Bailey for Portis, not forced. Our trade for MM, forced.

[Edited on 4/3/2005 by saintswhodi]

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I\'ve been on vacation, and then had to go to Gainesville for business. I am here now, but get to go back to Chicago Saturday. I\'ve been looking in from time to time, but I don\'t care much for the speculation game. All the threads being started about \"what about this guy?\" or \"should we go after blah blah blah blah blah.\" It is somewhat humorous to me, because I know that all the names being thrown out will rarely actually end up with that person being a Saint. Some of you do have it right, however. The Saints will wait until the dust settles and see who is leftover and is getting desparate, and then they will probably make a lowball bid to those who are starting to feel the pressure, and eventually they will end up with someone who may or may not fill the need. At any rate, they will get them for the money they are willing to spend, which is their main concern.

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Too true LB, too true. I guess I should \"calm down\" since I know that\'s how it\'s gonna be. But it still pisses me off. :mad2: :realmad: :furious: :cussing: :burning: Cause I know when all is said and done, I will be this guy :weepy: :crying:

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Ok. I\'ll take your word for that.
That was writen all over the place here last year. I assumed that it was common knowledge. My apologies for assuming that that was known.
Whodi, that is just disrespectful. Apologies if I said something mean to you. You need to look into \"the principle of charity\" - the basic idea is that you assume the guy you are talking with isn\'t making a stupid argument. Before you call him out, you try and figure out if he could possibly be making a good argument, then you assume that he is making that one. If you are truly certain he is saying something that isn\'t an argument or it is difficult to say what the argument is, you ask him why he thinks that or point out that he should provide evidence.
Why not?
You will notice that I stipulated to the LBs not once but twice. As far as QBs go, we did sign Bouman in FA. Furthermore, we had JT and we drafted this Klingsbury kid. That seems to me to be addressing the QB backup role. Nobody thought getting Bouman was bad (of course, 90% of people thought letting Jake go was bad) when we got him. It wasn\'t until the preseason started that people started being upset with Bouman. In fact, around here, there were plenty of people saying that Bouman should start ahead of AB at one point.
But we did get Craft and Ambrose by way of FA. Craft was a somewhat sought after CB. So, we did address CB in FA. Not only that, we got Dale Carter in FA. It seems to me that even if these didn\'t pan out, it isn\'t like we didn\'t address those needs.
I agree with this; my point was that we are being \"forced\" again. We don\'t have a starting RT right now, and we seem to be looking into that, if you buy the rumors.
I don\'t see how I\'m going to get that information for you? I\'m certain that others around here will back me up on Conwell. Surely, you agree with me on Gandy, right. Riley will get interest from teams THIS year, even after the way he played for us. The Yahoo site has him ranked among the top 10, I think, OTs available in FA - someone posted something last week where Riley was ranked 5th! Yikes. Also, I said we got Stecker when no one was looking; we agree on that too.
If we got Pierce, wouldn\'t that have been forced? We don\'t have a star LB. I don\'t see what this point about \"being forced\" has to do with anything? I\'m not trying to be an azz, I just don\'t understand this idea of being forced. I feel like we are forced to get any FA we do get - why would we get someone we didn\'t need?
I agree that we have not been as aggressive as I\'d like, but hind sight is 20/20. I\'m merely pointing out that when we made those moves I listed, there were fans somewhere else who were cheezed they didn\'t get Conwell or Gandy or even the naive few who wanted Riley.
I wonder how good any team\'s track record is here? I don\'t think we\'ve done that much worse or better than any other team in the draft. That is the problem with the draft: it is a craps shoot. Sure, there are periods of 2 to 4 years where a team or two does really well in the draft, but I don\'t see that we\'ve done that badly. In fact, I remember reading somewhere that we have a fairly good number of draft picks over the Haz period that are still on the team compared to other teams during the same time period.
Cute. You\'re calling down my optimism here just as much or more than I questioned your pessimism. I guess you\'ll have to excuse me for not taking the fact that a bunch of people took it to mean we have no back up plan as evidence that we have no back up plan. Until I hear more, I will simply believe that I don\'t really know what \"thown for a loop\" means in this context. I\'m not sure what will happen yet with this. I just don\'t see any evidence that we are going to do anything stupid. Even though a lot of those guys I mentioned didn\'t turn out as we\'d like, they were not stupid acquisitions when we made the decision to acquire them. Thus, the fact that those guys (except T-buck, I\'ll give you that point) didn\'t turn out, IS NOT a sign that we will do something stupid.

Finally, I don\'t see why the Howard trade is our last hope? There are still a bunch of upgrades at OT and LB available in FA. Hartwell, Gold, and so on. I listed them in another thread.

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Saintfan

I am tellin ya there used to be this air of disbelief , now the common point seems to be Brooks is not the only problem . 4 years ago Brooks makin plays up in the huddle would have been worth some debate , now it kind of get\'s handled with that what\'s new attitude . News flashes are posted with the lead in to Brooks , Sheppard is hired because he works well with Brooks and knows the offense . I mean what is that bull ??? You go out and hire an Offensive Coordinator and he runs a system you want , a system he is capable of running and has the expertice with and success with . Not because he plays well with the handicapped quarterback .

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Whodi, ;)

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OK, Loomis, here\'s how it works...

Tuna smiling again in Dallas

When talking with Cowboys coach Bill Parcells last weekend in Indianapolis, there was a sense that Dallas was going to be very aggressive in free agency. Coming out \"with guns blazing,\" was the term mentioned.

\"Those are your words, not mine,\" Parcells said, when questioned about Dallas\' attitude toward spending its cap money. They entered this period approximately $15 million under the cap.

Parcells was in a good mood at the combine. He was talking baseball, a passion of his, as spring training got under way. Plus, he likes the addition of ex-Buffalo quarterback Drew Bledsoe, a player who took him to his third Super Bowl back in New England. Despite owner Jerry Jones\' praise of Drew Henson, the coach wanted a veteran, and got one.

He also wants to switch his defense to a 3-4 defense, so the Cowboys needed to sign Jets defensive tackle Jason Ferguson, which they did Thursday. They already signed the hottest free-agent cornerback, former Brown Anthony Henry, to go with left cornerback Terence Newman.

With the late-season emergence of running back Julius Jones, the Cowboys can be competitive again in the NFC East if Bledsoe can stay healthy and make some big plays. Remember, Bledsoe will be reunited with speed receiver Terry Glenn, who missed half of last season. His biggest target should be tight end Jason Witten, one of the best at his position. And there\'s old reliable, Keyshawn Johnson.

Last year, Parcells was forced to start Vinny Testaverde after the team released Quincy Carter because of his drug problems. Parcells and Jones were right about Carter, who abandoned his new team, the Jets, during their playoff run to enter a drug rehabilitation center.

There is nothing definite about his future in Dallas, but Parcells sounds like a coach who wants to fix the Cowboys and get them competitive in a hurry. Granted, Bledsoe isn\'t a long-term answer, but maybe in a year or two Henson might be. But the sense in Dallas is, particularly with the staff and scouting changes that he\'s made, that Parcells doesn\'t plan to walk away after this season unless the team is a winner.

Even if Dallas struggles again next season, I can see Parcells returning for the fourth and final year of his contract. He doesn\'t want to leave his last NFL coaching job with the team still below .500.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3436450

Now go forth and sign someone at a need position!

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IF we get Womack and move up to get DJ(by trading Howard), and we dont screw up the second rd i will be happy. is that to much to ask 4?