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WillSaints81 04-16-2016 06:45 PM

The QB after Brees.
 
Given the connections and all, this really makes sense. We may not have to draft a qb. If his team does not get him to the sb in the next couple of seasons, I can see Andrew Luck becoming a saint. And we would without question be the frontrunner if interested. And honestly, he's a leader and would fit our offense incredibly. But the one wrinkle is will Brees be done by then or not?

frydaddy 04-16-2016 07:26 PM

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Eh, I'd be all for it.. however, we're basically talking alternate universe scenarios with this. I can think of no reason why Indy would ever let him get away. I know Irsay likes to hit the bottle, but he would have to go on a non stop bender to forget about locking up his franchise QB.

WillSaints81 04-16-2016 07:44 PM

Re: The QB after Brees.
 
Maybe the colts could have someone like Dalton? How long before he leaves that cursed playoff team?

spkb25 04-16-2016 07:52 PM

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The QB after brees will be Brees, one of his son's will take over

WillSaints81 04-16-2016 07:57 PM

Re: The QB after Brees.
 
His son is only 7. His oldest.

spkb25 04-16-2016 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 699679)
His son is only 7. His oldest.

It wasn't meant to be taken serious, lol

hitta 04-16-2016 09:57 PM

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Don't give up on Garrett Grayson, the dude has serious potential imo.

billyt81 04-16-2016 10:45 PM

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I think Johnny Manziel has the perfect personality traits and mentality to make him a good...............gangsta rapper. My question. Why does he need to go to the club every night? I assume he's chasing tail and must wanna challenge Wilt Chamberlain over who scored more and I don't mean buckets. I mean. Offseason. OK. Friday night-go out. Take one home and get another one's number. Saturday go out again and repeat process. Invite the ones you got the numbers for to your place during the week............ Or throw away a chance to play in the NFL as a QB to go bar hopping every night. I pray he's on drugs because at least then this would make sense. I predict Manziel will release a rap album with multiple tracks with Beiber in em. The two douchiest dudes on the planet..........Yep. I just evaluated my last statement and am sticking to it. I was a huge Manziel fan. Very similar athlete to Russel Wilson. Maybe with a stronger arm. Unfortunately. Totally opposite personalities. Oh yeah and this thread is too soon. Brees has 3-5 years left.

WillSaints81 04-17-2016 02:24 AM

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NO^

WillSaints81 04-17-2016 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 699684)
Don't give up on Garrett Grayson, the dude has serious potential imo.


He better do something this camp then.

AsylumGuido 04-17-2016 10:09 AM

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The QB after Brees isn't even in the NFL yet and may still be a high schooler.

Seer1 04-17-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 699683)
It wasn't meant to be taken serious, lol

Hahaha! I would've like this twice, but they wouldn't let me!

Rugby Saint II 04-17-2016 02:20 PM

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McCown is a fine back-up to Drew while we figure out if Grayson is the heir apparent. We don't need to spend a draft pick on Drew's replacement for a couple of more years. We all hope Grayson can step into the clip board holder this year.

We'll know more after Drew get's his extension and then we'll have a time frame for when we need to find his replacement.

WillSaints81 04-17-2016 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 699706)
The QB after Brees isn't even in the NFL yet and may still be a high schooler.



Look. Brees does not have that long left. When the dropoff occurs it will be sudden. A high schooler has to be in college for four years or he will become another Manziel/Sanchez. Brees does not have five years left like many want to believe. Manning left the NFL at 40. Brady is currently 39. He's probably got two years left. It all goes downhill after 40.

foreverfan 04-17-2016 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 699730)
Look. Brees does not have that long left. When the dropoff occurs it will be sudden. A high schooler has to be in college for four years or he will become another Manziel/Sanchez. Brees does not have five years left like many want to believe. Manning left the NFL at 40. Brady is currently 39. He's probably got two years left. It all goes downhill after 40.

Halo... I never have in the past asked you to ban someone for a comment but you need to ban WillSaints81 for a week for these comments. :D:bng:

I'm sure WillSaint81 would agree with me too.

:needle:

WillSaints81 04-18-2016 02:10 AM

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You believe Drew has five years left? Based on what? What he's doing now? Outside saints world people are already saying Brees is almost done. This is what happens when you lose games. Everyone gets torn apart.

Halo 04-18-2016 11:25 AM

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Hate to poo poo on the parade but with exception of San Fran in the 90's, Green Bay with Rogers after Favre, and to a lesser extent the Colts recently, it's rare for an NFL franchise to follow-up an NFL legend QB like Brees with another legend.

We could spend years sifting through draft picks and free-agents only to have wasted money looking for the next Brees.

I would rather the team draft huge young players on both sides of the ball and hope the next Brees comes in free agency or through the draft at any skilled position. When we find our next offensive attack, build a team around that player - running-back, wide receiver, QB, etc. Keep building the core players and both lines and skills players so when the next QB arrives from a draft or 2nd or 3rd string, or free agency naturally, the foundation will already be in place.

AsylumGuido 04-18-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 699738)
You believe Drew has five years left? Based on what? What he's doing now? Outside saints world people are already saying Brees is almost done. This is what happens when you lose games. Everyone gets torn apart.

Yes, I believe Brees can have five years left. No QB in the league has ever worked harder at keeping in shape than Brees. His off-season program which combines physical activities and a very special diet is unprecedented. An athlete that takes good care of themselves can expect a much longer period of production than ever before. The popular perception of the "lifetime" of an NFL QB is totally based upon the past and is no longer relevant today. Yes, you are correct in what the "outside" world is saying, and has been saying, about Brees. They are wrong.

AsylumGuido 04-18-2016 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 699730)
Look. Brees does not have that long left. When the dropoff occurs it will be sudden. A high schooler has to be in college for four years or he will become another Manziel/Sanchez. Brees does not have five years left like many want to believe. Manning left the NFL at 40. Brady is currently 39. He's probably got two years left. It all goes downhill after 40.

Manning was playing at a historically high level when he suffered the serious injury that basically ended his career. Brady is still recognized as the premier QB in the league and even his preparation is inferior to that of Brees. It used to go downhill after 40. Today is not yesterday.

Seer1 04-18-2016 11:43 AM

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Yep, the trick is getting the right monsters in front of him, some guys with real sticky hands and some running backs who don't confuse blitzes with blintzes. That'll lengthen his time in the league by quite a bit.

darksoul35 04-18-2016 01:00 PM

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Of coarse I don't know for sure but it seems like if Saints had confidence in him they wouldn't be signing these other qbs

Cruize 04-18-2016 01:43 PM

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Grayson will be ready this year.

voodooido 04-18-2016 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 699777)
Grayson will be ready this year.

Hope your right. I love Brees but hate his cap number. Unless a deal is made we won't have him next year anyway. Franchising him next year would cost 43 million. No QB ever was worth that.

AsylumGuido 04-18-2016 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 699775)
Of coarse I don't know for sure but it seems like if Saints had confidence in him they wouldn't be signing these other qbs

I have no problem with the Saints drafting or signing a UDFA QB every year. It would be foolish not to if you have the draft choice available. Every good franchise wants a solid low cost backup on the roster. You see, it is not that the Saints have any doubt whatsoever in Brees. They simply want to maximize the value of the backup QB.

AsylumGuido 04-18-2016 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 699777)
Grayson will be ready this year.

If you are implying that Grayson will be ready to be a backup, maybe. I personally feel he has little chance of beating out McCown who I believe is far superior. He would have to be at least close and then his lower cap number would warrant the spot. Either way, neither QB has much of a chance of ever starting.

AsylumGuido 04-18-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 699780)
Hope your right. I love Brees but hate his cap number. Unless a deal is made we won't have him next year anyway. Franchising him next year would cost 43 million. No QB ever was worth that.

A deal will be made. I have been saying all along that there is no reason to finalize the extension until after the draft. I am sticking to that prediction. But, to be honest, under current conditions, the Saints can absorb the current cap hit and work up a whole new deal next off season, although I seriously doubt that would happen.

K Major 04-18-2016 03:42 PM

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Added competition for Grayson ...

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voodooido 04-18-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 699785)
A deal will be made. I have been saying all along that there is no reason to finalize the extension until after the draft. I am sticking to that prediction. But, to be honest, under current conditions, the Saints can absorb the current cap hit and work up a whole new deal next off season, although I seriously doubt that would happen.

I believe you are right. I think it's just minor details holding it up. They would be stupid not to. Even if it was 25 a year I would be fine with that. Everything falling off next year will help.

AsylumGuido 04-18-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 699788)
I believe you are right. I think it's just minor details holding it up. They would be stupid not to. Even if it was 25 a year I would be fine with that. Everything falling off next year will help.

Actually, I think virtually every detail has been agreed to, but the amount that Loomis needs for 2016 cap space will not be known until after the draft. Brees gets his money anyway, so how much of the guaranteed amount is credited toward 2016 would mean nothing to him, but it means the world to a brilliant cost accountant like Loomis. I would bet my left gonad that this is the final detail.

Edit: By the way, I have wagered the same before and still have my little buddy.

RaginCajun83 04-18-2016 06:42 PM

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Haven't seen anything from Grayson to think this pick was a good decision. His ceiling is backup QB, not starter. The next starter will come from bringing in another free agent


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