Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

WhoDat!656 · 04-25-2016, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, I'm not going to say that I'm the biggest Mike Florio fan, but he is one of the few in the media that didn't rush to judgement re: the Bountygate Beatdown...

In fact, he has continued to reference it and pretty much called bullshinski on what Goodell did and how he did it; he still references it, not allowing it to die...

That said, I feel his article re: what's happened is timely and his analysis re: Brees and Tom Condon and their motives for leaking his willingness is dead on...

Among his valid points - if Brees was so interested in signing an team-first, accommodating contract, why did he not leak that or state that publicly before free agency began...

Or even last season when a left guard Clint Boling was available at a reasonable salary...

And don't think it doesn't affect the locker room - Junior Galette's tweet to Josh Norman of the Jimmy John's delivery car was a veiled suggestion to some of the resentment, valid or invalid, but very real toward's the Brees/Condon contract that limited the Saints in retaining players and acquiring needed fresh troops via free agency...

And for Florio, who has amassed a very credible media reputation to publish such a column, you can bet he verified there's definitely fire from this smoke...

So it is Brees' fault the team has so much cap tied up in players that are gone, i.e. Gallette, Browner, Graham, or players that haven't produced, i.e. Byrd?

Brees is in a no win situation: If he says up front he will re-structure to bring in a player, he will get slammed for ringing his own bell.

If he doesn't say anything publicly but the Saints know he will re-structure and for whatever reason can't get the deal done he will get slammed for being greedy.

The Dude · 04-25-2016, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

So it is Brees' fault the team has so much cap tied up in players that are gone, i.e. Gallette, Browner, Graham, or players that haven't produced, i.e. Byrd?

Brees is in a no win situation: If he says up front he will re-structure to bring in a player, he will get slammed for ringing his own bell.

If he doesn't say anything publicly but the Saints know he will re-structure and for whatever reason can't get the deal done he will get slammed for being greedy.

Exactly. Brees didn't make big money deals with players who haven't panned out. We wouldn't be having this conversation at all if the Jr situation hadn't happened. All teams have players or two with huge contracts. It can be done.

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2016, 02:57 PM

I will repeat this for the 10th time (?) ...

... there is no reason to finalize a Brees extension until AFTER the draft. I have been saying this for at least two months now.

Danno · 04-25-2016, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I will repeat this for the 10th time (?) ...

... there is no reason to finalize a Brees extension until AFTER the draft. I have been saying this for at least two months now.

voodooido · 04-25-2016, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I will repeat this for the 10th time (?) ...

... there is no reason to finalize a Brees extension until AFTER the draft. I have been saying this for at least two months now.

It would of allowed us to bring in some more above avg players.

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2016, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

It would of allowed us to bring in some more above avg players.

There weren't any "above" average players that we needed in free agency. Lauriniatis was the top rated OLB FA. Fairley was the top rated DT FA. Fleener was the #2 rated TE FA behind Antonio Gates.

|Mitch| · 04-25-2016, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There weren't any "above" average players that we needed in free agency. Lauriniatis was the top rated OLB FA. Fairley was the top rated DT FA. Fleener was the #2 rated TE FA behind Antonio Gates.

Not to mention; if they were wanted Loomis will make it happen. Just like with Norman... Even though I'm thinking the Redskins over-payed a little

04-25-2016, 06:40 AM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,096	Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, I'm not going to say that I'm the biggest Mike Florio fan, but he is one of the few in the media that didn't rush to judgement re: the Bountygate Beatdown... In fact, he has continued to reference it and pretty much called bullshinski on what Goodell did and how he did it; he still references it, not allowing it to die... That said, I feel his article re: what's happened is timely and his analysis re: Brees and Tom Condon and their motives for leaking his willingness is dead on... Among his valid points - if Brees was so interested in signing an team-first, accommodating contract, why did he not leak that or state that publicly before free agency began... Or even last season when a left guard Clint Boling was available at a reasonable salary... And don't think it doesn't affect the locker room - Junior Galette's tweet to Josh Norman of the Jimmy John's delivery car was a veiled suggestion to some of the resentment, valid or invalid, but very real toward's the Brees/Condon contract that limited the Saints in retaining players and acquiring needed fresh troops via free agency... And for Florio, who has amassed a very credible media reputation to publish such a column, you can bet he verified there's definitely fire from this smoke... So it is Brees' fault the team has so much cap tied up in players that are gone, i.e. Gallette, Browner, Graham, or players that haven't produced, i.e. Byrd? Brees is in a no win situation: If he says up front he will re-structure to bring in a player, he will get slammed for ringing his own bell. If he doesn't say anything publicly but the Saints know he will re-structure and for whatever reason can't get the deal done he will get slammed for being greedy. The Dude and brees84 like this.

04-25-2016, 11:04 AM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 So it is Brees' fault the team has so much cap tied up in players that are gone, i.e. Gallette, Browner, Graham, or players that haven't produced, i.e. Byrd? Brees is in a no win situation: If he says up front he will re-structure to bring in a player, he will get slammed for ringing his own bell. If he doesn't say anything publicly but the Saints know he will re-structure and for whatever reason can't get the deal done he will get slammed for being greedy. Exactly. Brees didn't make big money deals with players who haven't panned out. We wouldn't be having this conversation at all if the Jr situation hadn't happened. All teams have players or two with huge contracts. It can be done.
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04-25-2016, 02:57 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,777	Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees? I will repeat this for the 10th time (?) ... ... there is no reason to finalize a Brees extension until AFTER the draft. I have been saying this for at least two months now. SmashMouth likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I will repeat this for the 10th time (?) ... ... there is no reason to finalize a Brees extension until AFTER the draft. I have been saying this for at least two months now. jnormand likes this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,846	Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I will repeat this for the 10th time (?) ... ... there is no reason to finalize a Brees extension until AFTER the draft. I have been saying this for at least two months now. It would of allowed us to bring in some more above avg players.
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04-25-2016, 04:21 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,777	Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees? Originally Posted by voodooido It would of allowed us to bring in some more above avg players. There weren't any "above" average players that we needed in free agency. Lauriniatis was the top rated OLB FA. Fairley was the top rated DT FA. Fleener was the #2 rated TE FA behind Antonio Gates.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There weren't any "above" average players that we needed in free agency. Lauriniatis was the top rated OLB FA. Fairley was the top rated DT FA. Fleener was the #2 rated TE FA behind Antonio Gates. Not to mention; if they were wanted Loomis will make it happen. Just like with Norman... Even though I'm thinking the Redskins over-payed a little

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