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Danno 04-27-2016 05:41 PM

My wish list at 12
 
OK, some won't be there, but I can dream...

Buckner
Bosa
Ramsey
Jack
Lawson
Rankins
Robinson
Reed
Floyd
Hargreaves

Now trading down (but not too far) throws a bunch more in the mix...
Spence
Billings
Butler
Dodd
Doctson
Treadwell
Jackson

saintfan 04-27-2016 06:06 PM

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It's a crap shoot, and one man isn't going to do it alone.

Trade down. Increase the odds is what I say.

hagan714 04-27-2016 07:36 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Jalen Ramsey, S/CB, Florida State, 6005, 209 4.41

Maybe just maybe and a lot of if ands or buts
Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame 6055 315 5.17
Ezekiel Elliott RB OSU 5115 225 4.47

In a perfect world both would still be on the board
Shaq Lawson DE Clemson 6026 270 4.70
Jarran Reed, DT/DE, Alabama 6034 307 5.21

If none are on the board reach?

Josh Doctson WR TCU 6020 202 4.50
Laquon Treadwell Ole Miss WR 6020 221 4.64

Trade away is always an option. bottom half of one is not that much different than our next pick in round two

ChrisXVI 04-27-2016 07:59 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
You guys seem to think you can just trade down if you want to. It's damn near impossible unless you're picking in the top 5.

jeanpierre 04-27-2016 08:17 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 700920)
You guys seem to think you can just trade down if you want to. It's damn near impossible unless you're picking in the top 5.

I don't know, Chris, Arizona picked up a third round pick when they found a trade partner in the Saints...

That was Cardinal's pick 20 for the Saints' pick 27 and a third round pick in the 2014 draft...

Sometimes personnel decision makers have their man-crushes (Cooks)...

jeanpierre 04-27-2016 08:21 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Whoever it is we pick at twelve, I'd hope that...

1) He's a three down player (not a two down run stuffer)...

2) He's not a running back...

3) He's with the team, effectively, for at least nine years...

4) He's an immediate, effective starter...

5) He's not a Pac/West type player that is restricted from OTA's and Minicamps and can acclimate right away...

6) He's not a medical redshirt type and has no medical baggage to limit his start to professional football...

7) And most importantly, He's a football player that loves to play the game and leads by that example...

SmashMouth 04-27-2016 08:30 PM

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1. Sheldon Rankins DT Louisville


2. Robert Nkemdiche DT Ole Miss

3. Carl Nassib DE Maryland

4. Vadal Alexander G LSU

5. Rashard Robinson CB LSU

7. Cody Kessler QB USC

WillSaints81 04-27-2016 08:32 PM

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I don't think Rankins fits our defense because Payton wants a big run stuffer.

ChrisXVI 04-27-2016 08:45 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 700921)
I don't know, Chris, Arizona picked up a third round pick when they found a trade partner in the Saints...

That was Cardinal's pick 20 for the Saints' pick 27 and a third round pick in the 2014 draft...

Sometimes personnel decision makers have their man-crushes (Cooks)...

Right, but that's because we're the dopes always wanting to trade up. Not a lot of other teams do that.

saintsfan1976 04-27-2016 09:35 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 700922)
Whoever it is we pick at twelve, I'd hope that...

1) He's a three down player (not a two down run stuffer)...

2) He's not a running back...

3) He's with the team, effectively, for at least nine years...

4) He's an immediate, effective starter...

5) He's not a Pac/West type player that is restricted from OTA's and Minicamps and can acclimate right away...

6) He's not a medical redshirt type and has no medical baggage to limit his start to professional football...

7) And most importantly, He's a football player that loves to play the game and leads by that example...

That's Conklin JP

blackangold 04-27-2016 10:24 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Lawson or Dodd instantly make our defense better.

Those two are the only ones that are true starting 43 DEs which should be available at 12.

Round 2 I'm hoping Billings is there.

blackangold 04-27-2016 10:30 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 700921)
I don't know, Chris, Arizona picked up a third round pick when they found a trade partner in the Saints...

That was Cardinal's pick 20 for the Saints' pick 27 and a third round pick in the 2014 draft...

Sometimes personnel decision makers have their man-crushes (Cooks)...

Still don't like that trade... Cooks is good and Likely would have been there at 27, but with how deep WR was in that draft it was foolish to reach. Understandable why that entire scouting department got the axe... So many piss poor drafts by the old crew.

nola_swammi 04-28-2016 12:17 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Trade with the jets for m. Wilkerson and pick Eli Apple or Robert Nkemdiche

lee909 04-28-2016 12:57 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
If we could trade back a few places 15-20 range id be happy. What would we get there

Depending on where and how much a team likes somebody a 2nd ir 3 and 4th.

This is one draft i would be happy to throw a future pick at too.

Say trade back to 18-20 then use them extra picks and next tears first/2nd to get back into the late first early second. There is alot of defensive talent to be had this year. Could sort the front 7 out easily

burningmetal 04-28-2016 05:02 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 700920)
You guys seem to think you can just trade down if you want to. It's damn near impossible unless you're picking in the top 5.

Think of all the times we've seen the Saints trade up when neither they, nor their trade partner were near the top 5. That partner had to trade DOWN with the Saints. So how is it nearly impossible? It happens all the time. It doesn't matter where you are in the draft. If a team wants a player and doesn't think they can get him by staying put, they will trade up.

It remains to be seen if such a scenario will unfold this year, but if it does, I'd be all in favor of it. Nobody is going to be available at 12 who is so awesome that we couldn't afford to pass him up in favor of getting more picks, and a better chance of hitting a home run.

hagan714 04-28-2016 05:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 700920)
You guys seem to think you can just trade down if you want to. It's damn near impossible unless you're picking in the top 5.

I am not to sure. we could end up at a very sweet spot for the second tier prospects are ready to be had.

Miami is tabbed for a CB and it looks to make great sense. so anyone wanting their pick of CB will be on the phone to us.

perfect trade back and stay in the top 15. thats a 3rd at the least

but in what world do the saints trade back?

hagan714 04-28-2016 05:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 700933)
Still don't like that trade... Cooks is good and Likely would have been there at 27, but with how deep WR was in that draft it was foolish to reach. Understandable why that entire scouting department got the axe... So many piss poor drafts by the old crew.

glad to see i am not alone.

The guy i wanted was Deon Bucannon, talk about insult to injury that year for me, he ended up with the Cards at 22. Cook I rated as a toy for SP and nothing more.

round 2? SJB instead of Allen Robinson or Jarvis Laundry? I have to stop there. that draft makes me sick still

That was a bad trade and the axe was just.

Hope we learned our lessons well

lee909 04-28-2016 06:20 AM

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I love what Cooks brings but i agree ww should never have moved up in that draft for a WR it was so deep.

As you say Robinson,Benjamin, Landry,Brown and Bryant all went later

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 07:10 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 700922)
Whoever it is we pick at twelve, I'd hope that...

1) He's a three down player (not a two down run stuffer)...

2) He's not a running back...

3) He's with the team, effectively, for at least nine years...

4) He's an immediate, effective starter...

5) He's not a Pac/West type player that is restricted from OTA's and Minicamps and can acclimate right away...

6) He's not a medical redshirt type and has no medical baggage to limit his start to professional football...

7) And most importantly, He's a football player that loves to play the game and leads by that example...

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 700929)
That's Conklin JP

Sure. And there's this wide receiver, Laquon Treadwell that also fits that description - have you heard of him?!?

K Major 04-28-2016 07:25 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Not impressed with the WR class for 2016 but if I had to select one ...Josh Doctson is my choice (not just saying this because he is right down the road in Ft. Worth). Want a WR to get up and fight for the ball one on one? ... JD. A big, powerful strong dude.

K Major 04-28-2016 07:30 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Back on topic ... hopefully Ireland and co go in this direction:

DE
DT & G.

I'll let you guys insert the names. Hopefully the selections will be impact players from day one.

Draft day is finally here :drummer: !!!!

foreverfan 04-28-2016 10:10 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 700956)
Sure. And there's this wide receiver, Laquon Treadwell that also fits that description - have you heard of him?!?

Are you kidding... I'm still peeved we didn't draft Jarvis Landry. :rolleyes:

vpheughan 04-28-2016 10:39 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
I'm still upset about Les Kelley!

CheramieIII 04-28-2016 10:44 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
I just hope we get the best player available that can contribute this year. I really don't care who it is at this point although I would love to see 2 DT/DE and 1 CB in the 1st 3 rounds

Seer1 04-28-2016 10:54 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
1. Trade down
2. Elliott
3. Bosa

Anyone not sure of Bosa is going to be a bit regretful should he end up in the NFC South.

Euphoria 04-28-2016 10:59 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Some would say trade up and gamble with a player who is higher rated...

Right now if Qb's go 1 and two I say try and trade up to 8 with the Browns. You will have a shot at getting a top 5 player. THe Qb's are not even round one picks IMO. Let teams make a run on QB's and we can snag real top talent.

burningmetal 04-28-2016 11:39 AM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 700958)
Not impressed with the WR class for 2016 but if I had to select one ...Josh Doctson is my choice (not just saying this because he is right down the road in Ft. Worth). Want a WR to get up and fight for the ball one on one? ... JD. A big, powerful strong dude.

Yep. I like Doctson, as well. He's got all of the abilities of Treadwell, and also runs considerably faster than a turtle, unlike Treadwell. The only thing Laquon has on Doctson is height. But Doctson's not exactly short.

In conclusion, I don't know why he's not the highest rated receiver in the draft. Don't want to see the Saints go receiver in the first round, but if strange circumstances lead them that way, I wouldn't mind Doctson.

Danno 04-28-2016 02:18 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
I wonder how everyone feels about Myles Jack
I he worth picking and stashing on IR (high probablity) for a season?

Would you be disappointed?

K Major 04-28-2016 02:25 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Danno,

Not less that a minute ago I asked a similar question about MJ (see Draft thread). If he is there at #12, I take him. Drafting for the future and this guy could be a game changer (assuming he is healthy) for years to come.

Seer1 04-28-2016 02:33 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 701026)
I wonder how everyone feels about Myles Jack
I he worth picking and stashing on IR (high probablity) for a season?

Would you be disappointed?

At twelve? Yeah! At forty-three? Not so much...

voodooido 04-28-2016 02:47 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 700921)
I don't know, Chris, Arizona picked up a third round pick when they found a trade partner in the Saints...

That was Cardinal's pick 20 for the Saints' pick 27 and a third round pick in the 2014 draft...

Sometimes personnel decision makers have their man-crushes (Cooks)...

Like Lynch? Someone is bound to fall in love with him and want to trade up. Denver, Jets, Buffalo and the Cards all are in the market for a qb. Cards and Denver is a big drop though.

Rugby Saint II 04-28-2016 04:06 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 700913)
OK, some won't be there, but I can dream...

Buckner
Bosa
Ramsey
Jack
Lawson
Rankins
Robinson
Reed
Floyd
Hargreaves

Now trading down (but not too far) throws a bunch more in the mix...
Spence
Billings
Butler
Dodd
Doctson
Treadwell
Jackson

They all look good to me Danno. Nice list to pick from.

QBREES9 04-29-2016 09:45 PM

Re: My wish list at 12
 
7. Cody Kessler QB USC


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