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nola_swammi 05-01-2016 03:56 AM

2016 NFL draft rating
 
New Orleans Saints: B

First pick: Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville (No. 12)

Other notable picks: Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (47); Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State (61); Daniel Lasco, RB, Cal (237)​


The Saints needed all kinds of help on defense, and certainly got it on the line with the selection of Sheldon Rankins with the 12th overall pick. Rankins is a pass-rusher with great run strength, and has the talent to define a defensive line for the next half-decade. And third-round safety Vonn Bell from Ohio State has the play potential to replace free-agent bust Jairus Byrd. Moreover, the Saints got one of the best receivers in this class in Ohio State's Michael Thomas; he'll add to Sean Payton's offense as a bigger target for Drew Brees. Manitoba (Canada) defensive tackle David Onyemata is a project, but an interesting athlete. And Cal running back Daniel Lasco could be a seventh-round steal if he can get past the injuries that affected his 2015 season. There’s no outside pass-rusher, but Rankins could cure a lot of ills on that front seven.​ —DF​


2016 NFL draft grades: Winners, losers, team-by-team results

I'll give it A+ for signing undrafted OG Landon Turner & C Jack Allen

homerj07 05-01-2016 09:58 AM

Re: 2016 NFL draft rating
 
I've seen grade from B up to A with everything in between

WhoDat!656 05-01-2016 12:05 PM

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How about this bit of stupidity I found:

Grade: D

New Orleans Saints

Analysis: The Saints had just five picks to make, and they didn’t seem to directly address their needs, especially at cornerback or pass rusher. Ohio State WR Michael Thomas should immediately help improve the receiving corps, however.

What pisses me off more about this is before the draft, the same site had this rating for Rankins:

Overall position grade: A+

1. A'Shawn Robinson, 6’4, 312 pounds, DT, Alabama
2. Sheldon Rankins, 6’2, 303 pounds, DT, Louisville

CheramieIII 05-01-2016 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 702560)
How about this bit of stupidity I found:

Grade: D

New Orleans Saints

Analysis: The Saints had just five picks to make, and they didn’t seem to directly address their needs, especially at cornerback or pass rusher. Ohio State WR Michael Thomas should immediately help improve the receiving corps, however.

What pisses me off more about this is before the draft, the same site had this rating for Rankins:

Overall position grade: A+

1. A'Shawn Robinson, 6’4, 312 pounds, DT, Alabama
2. Sheldon Rankins, 6’2, 303 pounds, DT, Louisville

Someone with that opinion of the Saints draft knows nothing about football and should stick to knitting!

CheramieIII 05-01-2016 12:14 PM

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I gave us an A-. We could've have Sheldon Day instead of alphabet from Nigeria but other than that I'm very happy.

QBREES9 05-01-2016 12:24 PM

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Only time will tell.

MarchingOn 05-01-2016 12:43 PM

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Good draft although we shouldn't have traded our 5ths away:
1) #1 DT in Rankins (counting Buckner as DE)
2) top big WR in Thomas
2) #1 SS in Bell
4) too clever by half Canadian surprise in DT Onyemata when DTs Billings or Reader were right there
7) a RB when when decent OGs were available

However, if I were Loomis with a time-traveling machine:
#1 ROT Tunsil
#2 WR Thomas
#3 DT Day
#4 DT Billings
#5 OG Westerman
#7 Canadian surprise S

And, if I were a time-traveling Payton who had learned to wait:
#1 DT Rankins
#2 WR Thomas
#3 DT Billings
#4 OG Westerman
#5 NT Reader
#7 Canadian delight

nola_swammi 05-01-2016 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 702575)
Good draft although we shouldn't have traded our 5ths away:
1) #1 DT in Rankins (counting Buckner as DE)
2) top big WR in Thomas
2) #1 SS in Bell
4) too clever by half Canadian surprise in DT Onyemata when DTs Billings or Reader were right there
7) a RB when when decent OGs were available

However, if I were Loomis with a time-traveling machine:
#1 ROT Tunsil
#2 WR Thomas
#3 DT Day
#4 DT Billings
#5 OG Westerman
#7 Canadian surprise S

And, if I were a time-traveling Payton who had learned to wait:
#1 DT Rankins
#2 WR Thomas
#3 DT Billings
#4 OG Westerman
#5 NT Reader
#7 Canadian delight

What is the logic "#7 Canadian delight" would've dropped to the 7th round? For round 2 I was hoping the saints would've traded down and picked WR Thomas and get Sean Davis in the third but you see Sean Davis was picked in the Second and by looking at the trades after the fact no way they would've got Sean Davis and probably would've lost Thomas if they tried.

I think the saints have in mind who they're targeting in the draft and I like their aggressive approach.

blackangold 05-01-2016 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 702563)
I gave us an A-. We could've have Sheldon Day instead of alphabet from Nigeria but other than that I'm very happy.

Or Billings...
However, Payton went on NFLN after the pick and was talking about using Ony as the 43 DE in base packages.

exile 05-01-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 702582)
Or Billings...
However, Payton went on NFLN after the pick and was talking about using Ony as the 43 DE in base packages.

Exactly. Billings and Day are 2 down run stuffers. Onyemata will end up on specials teams for a few years while they try to turn him into a sub package DE.

nola_swammi 05-01-2016 02:00 PM

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New Orleans Saints | 2016 NFL Draft Grades

Everyone knew the Saints were going to get Sheldon Rankins in the first round. He's a dynamic defensive lineman who can cause disruption up front. He's an instant starter for New Orleans. Adding wide receiver Michael Thomas in the second round gives the Saints a big body wide out with good hands. He'll remind Saints fans of Marques Colston. Onyemata was a little bit of an unknown until the East-West Shrine Game. He's a raw player who was picked when several known talents were available at defensive tackle. Seventh-round pick Daniel Lasco raised eyebrows at the combine with some big workout numbers. He can stick on special teams and as a backup running back.

Rugby Saint II 05-01-2016 02:46 PM

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Outside of Rankins and Thomas I don't know much about these players other than the post draft discussion. I am cautiously optimistic about this years draft.

Rankins A
Thomas B+
Bell B-
Onyomama C+
Lasco C+ (my early favorite for camp beast)

blackangold 05-01-2016 03:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 702583)
Exactly. Billings and Day are 2 down run stuffers. Onyemata will end up on specials teams for a few years while they try to turn him into a sub package DE.

I don't think so.

Onyemata might have the starting gig day 1. Richardson is the only one ahead of him for the base package DE spot, and Richardson was arguably the worst starting DE in the league (he was a UDFA walk on and got the start).

Ony in the base with Kikaha coming in on sub packages would keep everyone fresh.

Rugby Saint II 05-01-2016 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 702615)
I don't think so.

Onyemata might have the starting gig day 1. Richardson is the only one ahead of him for the base package DE spot, and Richardson was arguably the worst starting DE in the league (he was a UDFA walk on and got the start).

Ony in the base with Kikaha coming in on sub packages would keep everyone fresh.

If he plays well in TC Payton would give him the nod if he earns it. Throw Kikaha in the rotation and the DE position looks much improved. Richardson, Fairley and Davison are going to push the pocket and let our ends make plays in the back field.

hagan714 05-01-2016 11:59 PM

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C for talent drafted
F cost of talent drafted

So a ho hum draft


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