Originally Posted by Danno (Post 705718)

Thats speculation. It was reported on several sites that the Saints offer would have made him the highest paid QB of all time. Drew decided to play out his contract instead.

Agreed Nicks wasn't our downfall, but there was a significant drop-off from Nicks to Grubbs.

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 705721)

Guido, I respect your opinion, whether I agree or not. But good hell man, can't you do the same for others? Some people think Brees puts the team in a bad spot sometimes. It doesn't mean they hate him. And to be Frank, your opinion is truly that. Yours. Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't mean they are wrong and your opinion is fact and correct. By your logic, "none of us know anything" unless we were privyed to the actual situation. So... everyone has an opinion about something they don't know all the facts about. Argue if you want, but you'll not convince everyone you're right. And you may seem a bit pompous to some in attempting to do so.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 705687)

What gives you a good feeling about Grayson? He isn't even good enough to win the back-up job. Comparing him to Rodgers is silly. Coming out of college it was clear that Rodgers had far more potential than Grayson had ever shown. Rodgers was highly touted and drafted to be the eventual starter and was the back-up to Favre from day one. Grayson is, and has has never been more than, the token QB picked up with the hope that one day they may be able to elevate to a position of back-up. He has no more going for him than any other #3 QB the Saints have entertained since Brees took the helm.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 705725)

I am starting to think AsylumGuido is Condon in disguise. Every time some one says something "unflattering" about Brees he freaks out. You have to learn to relax brother. We are allowed to have our own opinion. I for one think we should do everyting but cup Brees balls to get a new conttact done. Saints go as Brees goes.

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 705727)

He might. The Saints might not want to pay Brees a big fat contract. That leaves the young gun Greyson. Trial by fire !! If you can say he'll never be nothing why can I say good of him? Prove me wrong?

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 705729)

I agree. If Brees goes, we're screwed. I want nothing more then the man to spend the rest of his career in NOLA. Cup them if that's what it takes. Cup them!!

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 705732)

This is the feeling of the vast number of Saints fans. We will sink back into obscurity without him at this point. I can't understand the irrational hatred of some.

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 705734)

I haven't noticed much of that at all. Who are you speaking of?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 705681)

It sounds as if you have no issue with having a crappy product on the field for the sake of money that isn't coming out of your pocket. As a fan you, and I, have not got any clue as to the value of players. The fixation on what individual players get paid is pointless. As fans we should want the very best players on the field. Who the hell cares what the man's check looks like? I want to know that he has the ability to make my team as good as it can be. Brees could decline for the next five years and still most likely be a better option than Grayson five years from now.

With the way the cap is exploding due to increasing revenue streams and with all of the dead cap rolling off the Saints books following this season money is not an issue. That said, why in the hell should it EVER be an issue for the fan? Don't forget, we are ignorant in the scheme of things. Some more ignorant than others.