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K Major 06-08-2016 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 706205)
Misused?
Harper is fine if you have uber players (e.g. linebackers, defensive backs) around him to limit his coverage responsibilities to a 3X3 area...

What I don't want to see is valuable camp snaps go to an aged veteran when we've acquired some pretty good talent and need to man up and coach that talent up...

Let's just hope that if Harper is playing, it's because of injuries. At this stage of his career, all I see is a spot player & blitzer at best.

I believe Coach Allen will stand behind what he says and play the best 11 men.

halloween 65 06-08-2016 07:58 AM

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Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

NonieT 06-08-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 706210)
Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.

Danno 06-08-2016 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 706216)
How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.

Harper
Started every game (35) with the Panthers
98 tackles
1 sack
4 ints
1 FF
15 passes defended


Vaccaro

122 tackles
4 sacks
2 ints
1 FF
10 passes defended.

NonieT 06-08-2016 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 706219)
Harper
Started every game (35) with the Panthers
98 tackles
1 sack
4 ints
1 FF
15 passes defended


Vaccaro

122 tackles
4 sacks
2 ints
1 FF
10 passes defended.

Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point.

joker-saint 06-08-2016 09:07 AM

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Championship!!! 😁💯

44Champs 06-08-2016 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 706208)
And there you've hit the proverbial nail on the head my friend.

Name one leader we've drafted besides Strief. Rankins looks promising if his play is as advertised.

Which brings us back to what the **** are our scouts doing?

I think Stephone Anthony will eventually step up to be the leader on this defense. He made major strides as a rookie last year, and having Lauranitis as a mentor is only going to help him even more.

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Danno 06-08-2016 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 706220)
Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point.

That doesn't make sense.

Thirty3 06-08-2016 10:25 AM

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can we afford a player to be a locker room presence?
Why not just hire him as a coach.

NonieT 06-08-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 706225)
That doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense. Harper had help. I'd bet everyone in that Carolina defense have similar stats. We know everyone in the Saints defense don't have those kind of stats. Vacarro had to do it all my himself. Like I said, there is no need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper. We know what Harper can do and we know what he can't do. The only thing he's got over Vacarro is experience. He should have more experience, he's been around longer. I just hope he's faster than a slug. And spare me the Vacarro is only slightly better than Harper because that's baloney too.

Danno 06-08-2016 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 706231)
It makes perfect sense. Harper had help. I'd bet everyone in that Carolina defense have similar stats. We know everyone in the Saints defense don't have those kind of stats. Vacarro had to do it all my himself. Like I said, there is no need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper. We know what Harper can do and we know what he can't do. The only thing he's got over Vacarro is experience. He should have more experience, he's been around longer. I just hope he's faster than a slug. And spare me the Vacarro is only slightly better than Harper because that's baloney too.

Vaccaro is only slightly better than Harper.:p

The Dude 06-08-2016 10:58 AM

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Locker room guy and player coach. They missed his leadership more than anything. He did have career years at Carolina so maybe we get lucky and get one good year of play.

K Major 06-08-2016 11:01 AM

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Harper = contingency plan.

Danno 06-08-2016 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 706234)
Harper = contingency plan.

Exactly.

My guess is that Dennis Allen will use a similar scheme to Gregg Williams with that in the box safety. Vaccaro is the new Roman Harper, and if Vaccaro gets hurt and misses a few games we can keep using the same scheme with Harper back in the box.

They're probably hoping Harris can become the back-up to Vaccaro, but if not we have Harper as a very capable back-up.

ScottF 06-08-2016 11:27 AM

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We sign 3-4 guys like this every year- a guy who missed an entire season, was a cap casualty, didn't fit the system, whatever. Hell, we've signed 5 this year. The question is always what do we give them up front?
We gambled and lost on Bailey (500,000), and Spencer, Chamberlain, Dan Morgan, etc. didn't work ,but we have done okay with some role players.
Every team takes a shot or two. The only noteworthy part here is that it is an ex-Saint

NonieT 06-08-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 706232)
Vaccaro is only slightly better than Harper.:p

Your opinion. It's garbage, but it's still yours.

SmashMouth 06-08-2016 11:57 AM

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jnormand 06-08-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 706238)

Join the coaching staff after his career is over? Is Rapoport just saying that because he was re-signed late in his career? Or does he actually have a source?

halloween 65 06-08-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 706232)
Vaccaro is only slightly better than Harper.:p

I was surely looking at upgrading at SS this season. Maybe next season.

Danno 06-08-2016 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 706248)
I was surely looking at upgrading at SS this season. Maybe next season.

Don't give up on Erik Harris yet.

K Major 06-08-2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 706248)
I was surely looking at upgrading at SS this season. Maybe next season.

Erik Harris, come on down :smile:.

AllSaints 06-08-2016 02:42 PM

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Veteren Leadership has been missed on the Defensive Squad the past few seasons ! I love the signing ! Y'all are crazy if you don't think Harper can make this squad he will be on the final 53 for sure...

hagan714 06-08-2016 04:31 PM

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interesting. retire as a saint?

Danno 06-08-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 706257)
interesting. retire as a saint?

Hopefully, with another Superbowl ring or two

Rugby Saint II 06-08-2016 05:32 PM

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He is Vaccaro's backup who will get playing time in certain packages. If Erik Harris can beat him out in camp then fine......but I just don't see that happening. I'm fine with this move.

saintfan 06-08-2016 09:39 PM

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I absolutely love Roman Harper. He's class personified. He's a professional. He's a good guy. He can only help and I, for one, and thrilled to have him back in the Black and Gold!

SmashMouth 06-08-2016 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 706272)
I absolutely love Roman Harper. He's class personified. He's a professional. He's a good guy. He can only help and I, for one, and thrilled to have him back in the Black and Gold!

Championship?

JPPT1974 06-08-2016 11:12 PM

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Proves you can go home again. Welcome back Roman!

UK_WhoDat 06-10-2016 10:56 AM

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I remember the Roman times being good. :airguitar:

RockyMountainSaint 06-11-2016 06:08 PM

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So happy he is back.
Always great in person.

RockyMountainSaint 06-11-2016 06:22 PM

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RockyMountainSaint 06-11-2016 06:25 PM

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My wife did some unpaid work for his foundation.
He hooked her up with a game ball.
Pretty sweet!

billyt81 06-17-2016 08:39 AM

Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
I think this is maybe sign and retire but didn't he start for a great D last year? Great tackler and blitzer. Can't cover anyone in man D. I will laugh my behind off if he beats out KV. We drafted Vonn Bell and signed a good safety from Ole Miss. Good luck


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