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K Major 06-08-2016 07:29 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 706205)
Misused?
Harper is fine if you have uber players (e.g. linebackers, defensive backs) around him to limit his coverage responsibilities to a 3X3 area...

What I don't want to see is valuable camp snaps go to an aged veteran when we've acquired some pretty good talent and need to man up and coach that talent up...
Let's just hope that if Harper is playing, it's because of injuries. At this stage of his career, all I see is a spot player & blitzer at best.

I believe Coach Allen will stand behind what he says and play the best 11 men.

halloween 65 06-08-2016 07:58 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

NonieT 06-08-2016 08:27 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 706210)
Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.
How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.

Danno 06-08-2016 08:48 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 706216)
How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.
Harper
Started every game (35) with the Panthers
98 tackles
1 sack
4 ints
1 FF
15 passes defended


Vaccaro
122 tackles
4 sacks
2 ints
1 FF
10 passes defended.

NonieT 06-08-2016 08:50 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 706219)
Harper
Started every game (35) with the Panthers
98 tackles
1 sack
4 ints
1 FF
15 passes defended


Vaccaro
122 tackles
4 sacks
2 ints
1 FF
10 passes defended.
Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point.

joker-saint 06-08-2016 09:07 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
Championship!!! 😁💯

44Champs 06-08-2016 09:48 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 706208)
And there you've hit the proverbial nail on the head my friend.

Name one leader we've drafted besides Strief. Rankins looks promising if his play is as advertised.

Which brings us back to what the **** are our scouts doing?
I think Stephone Anthony will eventually step up to be the leader on this defense. He made major strides as a rookie last year, and having Lauranitis as a mentor is only going to help him even more.

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Danno 06-08-2016 09:54 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 706220)
Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point.
That doesn't make sense.

Thirty3 06-08-2016 10:25 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
can we afford a player to be a locker room presence?
Why not just hire him as a coach.

NonieT 06-08-2016 10:40 AM
Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 706225)
That doesn't make sense.
It makes perfect sense. Harper had help. I'd bet everyone in that Carolina defense have similar stats. We know everyone in the Saints defense don't have those kind of stats. Vacarro had to do it all my himself. Like I said, there is no need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper. We know what Harper can do and we know what he can't do. The only thing he's got over Vacarro is experience. He should have more experience, he's been around longer. I just hope he's faster than a slug. And spare me the Vacarro is only slightly better than Harper because that's baloney too.


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