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voodooido

06-09-2016 05:10 PM

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Just saw it on ESPN. This one hurts seeing we brought on 0 DE's this off season

|Mitch|

06-09-2016 05:14 PM

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Next man up; Kikaha wasn't going to be an every down player anyway.

Danno

06-09-2016 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 706369)

Next man up; Kikaha wasn't going to be an every down player anyway.

True, but he was probably gonna be crucial to those pass rush packages.

Danno

06-09-2016 06:20 PM

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Just wondering... Freeny has already rejected a few offers.

I wonder how much he wants?
Will he only sign with a legit contender?
Will he wait until more injuries occur and ride in on his white horse for mega-bucks?
Would he be a good fit here with our mixed schemes?

ChrisXVI

06-09-2016 06:25 PM

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I wonder how Glenn Foster's real estate gig is going?? I know a way he could make a couple extra bucks lol.

|Mitch|

06-09-2016 06:29 PM

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And from what I understand Gwachum bulked up to 260 pounds and was a serious contender to pressure Kikaha for snaps. Looks like he won't have to battle now

saintsfan1976

06-09-2016 06:40 PM

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JP - how many sacks did Freeny have last season? 8??

WillSaints81

06-09-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 706343)

What exactly are your expectations in year #2 from a 5th rounder who was on IR in 2015 :rolleyes:?

Be worth his fourth round value.

WillSaints81

06-09-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 706374)

And from what I understand Gwachum bulked up to 260 pounds and was a serious contender to pressure Kikaha for snaps. Looks like he won't have to battle now

It's about talent more than size and bulking up has to be done the right way.

NonieT

06-09-2016 07:23 PM

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We could trade for Dion Jordan.

Cruize

06-09-2016 07:27 PM

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Sad for the young man. Hope he gets well soon. Great motor. Great college player. But, he lacks NFL size as a rush end and didn't have the speed to play OLB. He's never going to be anything but an average role player in the NFL at best.

Danno

06-09-2016 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 706379)

Very true, but he was gonna be a pretty important role player for us since pass rush was such a glaring weakness for us to start with.

I also wonder how hard it is to replace a 1-dimensional player?

RaginCajun83

06-09-2016 08:01 PM

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Well we all are about to find out

Beastmode

06-09-2016 08:08 PM

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We could go the rest of the season with no real significant injuries. But I know what you are thinking: Step away from the narcotics. Check into rehab forthwith.

4everSaint

06-09-2016 08:34 PM

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So we have the defensive version of Sam Bradford. Oy...

jeanpierre

06-09-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 706375)

JP - how many sacks did Freeney have last season? 8??

In a part time gig, no Games Started, with a weak schedule and three sacks came in one game against the Packers who were down to a PS lineman...

And his only job was to come in and rush the passer - we have that already in Edebali, who had more sacks per plays than Freeney...

I'm telling y'all, we've got the talent fellas, we need the coaching on the defense...

Only concern I have is/has been was Kikaha injured trying to play like a down lineman with his ill-fitted size or some other way?

Hate to see him getting hurt trying to drive square pegs in round holes; don't know that's the case, yet, but certainly hope it wasn't...

CheramieIII

06-09-2016 10:51 PM

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This is his third tear and WOW not again! I'm not going to sound the alarm on our DE's yet but I think we need to get a veteran in here quick! Who's available

K Major

06-09-2016 11:21 PM

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Circle back to the trenches for a moment ... with the addition of Fairley and Rankins, losing Kikaha won't be as bad as some may think.

The interior D line will be better. On paper, I see a much better group of talent .. not to mention a solid LB core & guys who actually cover TE's with consistency (insert Robertson).

WhoDatFan26

06-10-2016 06:06 AM

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I believe Thomas Davis has tore the same knee three times also. Also I don't put stock in the average player comments. I mean 19 sacks is 19 sacks. The Same guys he got sacks against in college are now playing in the Pros. Remember when Terrell Suggs was drafted people said that he was too slow also. He seems to be doing alright. I'm just going to pray the kid keeps working hard and comes back even hungrier. I still think he can come back and be a productive player in 2017. Just need Davis Tull and Edebali to step up.

darksoul35

06-10-2016 06:36 AM

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DAMN

CheramieIII

06-10-2016 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 706343)

What exactly are your expectations in year #2 from a 5th rounder who was on IR in 2015 :rolleyes:?

EVERYTHING! LOL

CheramieIII

06-10-2016 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 706384)

So we have the defensive version of Sam Bradford. Oy...

Now that's some funny **** right there!

hagan714

06-10-2016 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 706339)

Pretty fair take on it from WalterFootball:

Saints DE/OLB Hau'oli Kikaha out for season (torn ACL): 7/10 Disaster Rating
When the Saints spent a second-round pick on Hau'oli Kikaha, it was widely considered a reach because of how injury-prone the Washington product was. Kikaha tore his ACL twice in college and was considered to be a major health risk. The Saints took a chance on Kikaha, but it appears as though that decision is backfiring because Kikaha tore his ACL a third time today.

New Orleans had big plans for Kikaha this year, as he was supposed to be one of its primary pass-rushers. The Saints will obviously have to look elsewhere now. Kikaha wasn't considered a great player - he was just OK as a rookie - and if this were some other player, the Disaster Grade would be much lower. However, I have to make it a 7/10 because of Kikaha's history. A third ACL tear could make it so Kikaha never reaches his potential, and it also shows that he's not as durable as the Saints were hoping he would become in the pros.

Exactly the reason I did not want the saints to draft him. Talent is there but can he stay on the field? DE was on my wish list for the same reasons this year.

On the bright side he might actually get a better repair job done this time.

Papa Voodoo

06-10-2016 03:50 PM

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Thomas Davis is doing just peachy. Hopefully the same will be true for Kikaha.

Papa Voodoo

06-10-2016 03:55 PM

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I haven't followed him, but is Hardy with a team or suspended? 1 year deal?

K Major

06-10-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 706442)

I haven't followed him, but is Hardy with a team or suspended? 1 year deal?

He is free to sign with any team. The Cowboys simply didn't re sign him.

K Major

06-10-2016 04:03 PM

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https://bigeasybeliever.com/2016/06/...wight-freeney/

Rugby Saint II

06-10-2016 04:48 PM

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That is bad news. Now for the good news............Edibali, Onyamata, Tull and Gwachum.

Edibali played well last year when he was on the field and should improve.
Onyamata is my early favorite for camp beast because he will see more snaps now.
Tull is from UTC and was injured which is why we got him later in the draft. He has a ton of potential and has been in the system for a year now.
Gwachum is an intriguing prospect and I've read really good things about him and his NFL growth.

SmashMouth

06-10-2016 07:15 PM

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Pineapple Express on ice for a year... sucks, but we have some young guns ready to step up, methinks.

saintsfan1976

06-10-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 706380)

Very true, but he was gonna be a pretty important role player for us since pass rush was such a glaring weakness for us to start with.

I also wonder how hard it is to replace a 1-dimensional player?

What if you trade one for the other i.e. Freeny

skymike

06-10-2016 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 706335)

I need to add a F**K button for posts! F*******CK!

Only THIS site is cool enough to do it.

joker-saint

06-11-2016 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 706310)

Dwight Freeney.

Yes please

Thirty3

06-12-2016 06:57 AM

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3 -4

foreverfan

06-13-2016 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 706465)

Only THIS site is cool enough to do it.

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hagan714

06-13-2016 06:40 AM

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Mike Neal GB would probably work with our cap better.

ChrisXVI

06-13-2016 09:04 PM

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-sour...ons&soc_trk=tw

Turns out it was the same knee that was damaged in college. Not good.

saintfan

06-13-2016 09:16 PM

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v4jGSvxCRp4/hqdefault.jpg

Mardigras9

06-14-2016 08:35 AM

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It's a loss, but it's not the end all, hurry back Kikaha. Long way to go to find a replacement.

K Major

06-14-2016 09:52 AM

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I can see the Saints possibly targeting someone after all of the final cuts have been made through out the league later this summer.

Often times good players are cut not because they are devoid of talent & ability but because of a teams overall depth at the position. I'm certain Sean/Allen will target one of those players.

CheramieIII

06-15-2016 07:36 PM

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Saints coach Sean Payton believes Hau'oli Kikaha's third torn left ACL is "not necessarily" career ending.

Going on 24, Kikaha tore his left ACL twice in college. In somewhat confusing reasoning for his optimism, Payton said the ACL could be repaired "as if it were the first ACL, not the third." Kikaha is holding off on surgery, but it's inevitable. It's not unheard of to return from three ACL tears, but the odds are sadly against the 2015 second-rounder.

NFL | Bears WR Marquess Wilson re-breaks left foot - Rotoworld.com

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