If when u say did more with less u mean personal talent, that's debatable. Joe had way more speed. I stood next to Joe once, about 5" 11 190. Martin much bigger and stronger with Chris Carter style natural hands. Joe was all speed and heart. More importantly he scorched the NFL catching balls from Aaron Brooks and in Jim Haslett's offense. Martin played with Hebert. I say Joe won't make the hall but could have if he had a good QB. Bree's could've put Joe in there easily. I wish Bree's had a WR like that.