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saintz08 03-06-2005 04:29 PM

The position Hasbeen won't pick
 
You guessed it

The Mel Kiper pick is in for the Saints

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16. New Orleans Saints: Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma
Brown is equally adept in pass and run blocking, using his quick feet and long arms to move defensive linemen away from the action.
That pretty much guarantees that Hasbeen will not pick an offensive tackle . Things are looking up on a middle linebacker pick ....

GoldenTomb 03-06-2005 04:34 PM

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I don\'t think they ever intended on getting an offensive lineman for the first pick. My gut is telling me DJ is coming to the fold. ;)

FireVenturi 03-06-2005 05:04 PM

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DJ wiill not be there at 16. the only way we will get him is if we trade up. After DJ their is no other LB worth the 16th pick, we do not need to reach for a LB. Our need at OT is just as bad as the need at LB.

GoldenTomb 03-06-2005 05:11 PM

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Well I\'ve been saying all week that I think the Saints will attempt a trade, so that comment was with the implication that the Saints will trade up. I think everyone on this board can agree that DJ is a top 10 pick for sure.

If they stay put at 16 though I would like them picking Brandon Browner.

shadowdrinker 03-06-2005 05:19 PM

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With thier first selection in the 2005 NFL Draft, The New Orleans Saints choose......

Thomas Davis , Safety from Oklahoma University

Word for Word...haha

GoldenTomb 03-06-2005 05:23 PM

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I wouldn\'t be totally upset at that selection, but not an offensive lineman....I don\'t think this is the year for that, not when we already signed one FA and possibly another one on the way.

FireVenturi 03-06-2005 05:31 PM

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Well I\'ve been saying all week that I think the Saints will attempt a trade, so that comment was with the implication that the Saints will trade up. I think everyone on this board can agree that DJ is a top 10 pick for sure.

If they stay put at 16 though I would like them picking Brandon Browner.
I think that would be a reach. I would rather Thomas Davis or Jammal Brown

saintswhodi 03-06-2005 05:36 PM

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With thier first selection in the 2005 NFL Draft, The New Orleans Saints choose......

Thomas Davis , Safety from Oklahoma University

Word for Word...haha
Wow. He has the same name as Thomas Davis safety from Georgia. ;)

GoldenTomb 03-06-2005 05:40 PM

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Well I\'ve been saying all week that I think the Saints will attempt a trade, so that comment was with the implication that the Saints will trade up. I think everyone on this board can agree that DJ is a top 10 pick for sure.

If they stay put at 16 though I would like them picking Brandon Browner.
I think that would be a reach. I would rather Thomas Davis or Jammal Brown
What is this fascination with picking an OL with in the first round??? This is our first round draft pick we\'re talking here. We just signed Mayberry and we are looking to sign Fred Miller. I\'d rather wait a little while longer and pick Munoz in the third round. It\'s our defense that has the highest priority. I usually respect Kiper\'s opinions, but obviously he didn\'t watch many Saints games this year.

FireVenturi 03-06-2005 05:44 PM

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Well I\'ve been saying all week that I think the Saints will attempt a trade, so that comment was with the implication that the Saints will trade up. I think everyone on this board can agree that DJ is a top 10 pick for sure.

If they stay put at 16 though I would like them picking Brandon Browner.
I think that would be a reach. I would rather Thomas Davis or Jammal Brown
What is this fascination with picking an OL with in the first round??? This is our first round draft pick we\'re talking here. We just signed Mayberry and we are looking to sign Fred Miller. I\'d rather wait a little while longer and pick Munoz in the third round. It\'s our defense that has the highest priority. I usually respect Kiper\'s opinions, but obviously he didn\'t watch many Saints games this year.
Munoz??????dont want any part of a guy with a history of injury. Also why are some people willing to reach for a LB or Cb, just for the sake of picking one. If we can get DJ at LB lets jump on it, or pac man at CB lets jump on it,,,but no reaching. Browner will be a project to convert to safety, he will not play much corner in the NFL

GoldenTomb 03-06-2005 05:50 PM

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I don\'t think there is any reaching for DJ. Reaching is picking someone too early when he can be had later. Picking DJ any later than 3 would not be a reach. I think what you mean is don\'t overpay to pick. If we gave up all of our picks this year plus 3 next year to the Browns, that would be overpaying, but not reaching.

If we had the idea you have on Munoz we wouldn\'t have picked Deuce or Montrae Holland.

FireVenturi 03-06-2005 05:58 PM

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I don\'t think there is any reaching for DJ. Reaching is picking someone too early when he can be had later. Picking DJ any later than 3 would not be a reach. I think what you mean is don\'t overpay to pick. If we gave up all of our picks this year plus 3 next year to the Browns, that would be overpaying, but not reaching.

If we had the idea you have on Munoz we wouldn\'t have picked Deuce or Montrae Holland.
Sorry, let me explain. I think any other Lb besides DJ and any other Cb besides pac man is a reach at 16. I would move into the 4-7 range to get DJ! BTW, Holland is average at best, and the Deuce pick has worked out so far...he is a beast when in shape!!!!

rAge 03-06-2005 05:59 PM

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If they stay put at 16 though I would like them picking Brandon Browner.
Way too early for him. I\'d rather get Carlos Rogers if we stay at 16 and Rolle, Pacman, DJ, Jamal Brown & Barron are all gone.

rAge 03-06-2005 06:00 PM

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DJ and any other Cb besides pac man is a reach at 16.
Uhhh Antrel Rolle is the top CB in the draft. Carlos Rogers & Justin Miller are both guys who are projected to go in the mid-1st round (IE, around 16)

FireVenturi 03-06-2005 06:01 PM

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If they stay put at 16 though I would like them picking Brandon Browner.
Way too early for him. I\'d rather get Carlos Rogers if we stay at 16 and Rolle, Pacman, DJ, Jamal Brown & Barron are all gone.
:yourock:

GoldenTomb 03-06-2005 06:02 PM

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Well I don\'t think Rolle will be at 16 but he would be my first choice of course. I think he is a bona fide top 10 pick, and getting him that late would be a steal(posted this in another thread).

Brandon Browner will be a first round pick....early second at the latest.

[Edited on 7/3/2005 by GoldenTomb]

FireVenturi 03-06-2005 06:03 PM

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DJ and any other Cb besides pac man is a reach at 16.
Uhhh Antrel Rolle is the top CB in the draft. Carlos Rogers & Justin Miller are both guys who are projected to go in the mid-1st round (IE, around 16)
Rolle i think is a bit overrated, miller is a return man more than a corner ,and rodgers like webster last year benefited from playin on a great D

GoldenTomb 03-06-2005 06:08 PM

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Rolle i think is a bit overrated, miller is a return man more than a corner ,and rodgers like webster last year benefited from playin on a great D
Well I guess no one would no much about Rolle\'s skills since he didn\'t have even 20 passes thrown his way the whole season(sarcasm).

Euphoria 03-06-2005 10:36 PM

The position Hasbeen won't pick
 
I think its pretty obvious what the saints are going to do in this draft. They are going to draft what they think is the best overall athlete/player available when they pick.

saintz08 03-07-2005 12:59 AM

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I think its pretty obvious what the saints are going to do in this draft. They are going to draft what they think is the best overall athlete/player available when they pick.
And if that turns out to be a defensive lineman ????

That technique works for teams like the Patriots , but when the Saints come up to the podeum they need to put talented bodies in that swiss cheese defense , to plug the holes , not pile up around the holes .

[Edited on 7/3/2005 by saintz08]

WhoDat 03-07-2005 08:12 AM

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Guys, I hate to be the one to have to tell you all this, but put DJ out of your minds. With the way this team picks it\'s more likely that they trade four picks to move up 3 spots and nab a TE before they make a move to get a LB.

GoldenTomb 03-07-2005 08:15 AM

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Guys, I hate to be the one to have to tell you all this, but put DJ out of your minds. With the way this team picks it\'s more likely that they trade four picks to move up 3 spots and nab a TE before they make a move to get a LB.
Yeah we need to get less attached...we\'re already calling him DJ!

Euphoria 03-07-2005 08:44 AM

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It has been there draft stradegy for years now... its how we got Deuce even. Ya draft the best availabe period and you find ways to get them into the game. With the cap coming into play before you know it that best available player will end up starting ect. I am not saying its right or wrong but its there stradegy.

In a lot of ways I like it... its the same principal if you draft number one, and you are in rebuilding mode. Lets say you need a QB and there isn\'t any QB going to be the stud you need. So you go FA and then you draft the best player say a RB. Pats you win a championship and you have the last pick, you draft best available. Its the safest pick, picking that late in the round.


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