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WhoDat!656 07-09-2016 07:08 PM

5 Saints Players Who Should Be Cut By Week 1
 
New Orleans Saints: 5 Players Who Should be Cut by Week 1


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Danno 07-09-2016 07:35 PM

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Dumbest article ever

foreverfan 07-09-2016 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 708605)
Dumbest article ever

I've started worse threads.

http://i.imgur.com/Le2zh.jpg

RailBoss 07-09-2016 11:45 PM

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Ughh!

RockyMountainSaint 07-10-2016 01:19 AM

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When I see a slideshow post?
I just say no.

|Mitch| 07-10-2016 01:46 AM

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Mauti? He's a beast on special teams...

QBREES9 07-10-2016 11:26 PM

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Who cares.

spkb25 07-11-2016 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 708631)
Mauti? He's a beast on special teams...

yeah and he had some moments filling in too. I kind of like him

K Major 07-11-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 708688)
yeah and he had some moments filling in too. I kind of like him


Mauti got a lot of Saints brownie points on this one.

Danno 07-11-2016 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 708631)
Mauti? He's a beast on special teams...

And he graded out very well as a LB when we were forced to start him.

RaginCajun83 07-11-2016 10:26 AM

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Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief

K Major 07-11-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 708703)
Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief

PEAT has yet to beat out Zach.

To be continued ...

Danno 07-11-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 708703)
Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief
Zack Strief

Why on earth would you cut your 3rd best O-lineman?

dizzle88 07-11-2016 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 708713)
Why on earth would you cut your 3rd best O-lineman?

Whilst I don't think Zach will get cut, I think it's not long before we cut ties, over the past few years he has nearly gotten Drew killed

Remember SF game in 2013 - Brees got close lined by the guy Strief was blocking

Strief let up 3 sacks to Jacques Smith and Brees missed his first game in 10 years.

Whilst he's not our worst O lineman he's certainly not a strength.

Danno 07-11-2016 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 708716)
Whilst I don't think Zach will get cut, I think it's not long before we cut ties, over the past few years he has nearly gotten Drew killed

Remember SF game in 2013 - Brees got close lined by the guy Strief was blocking

Strief let up 3 sacks to Jacques Smith and Brees missed his first game in 10 years.

Whilst he's not our worst O lineman he's certainly not a strength.

He had 2 bad games and 14 good ones. Thats hardly worth cutting the guy. He's the best we have until someone steps up. To simply want to cut a guy over 2 bad ganes when the alternative will likely be worse is ridiculous.

You never cut a guy unless his replacement is better.

NonieT 07-11-2016 10:07 PM

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Zach Strief against Khalil Mack. I don't know about anyone else, but if he couldn't handle Jacques Smith, JJ Watt and Ahmad Brooks he ain't gonna handle Mack. The thought of Strief vs Mack is enough to scare the hell out of anyone.

dizzle88 07-12-2016 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 708756)
Zach Strief against Khalil Mack. I don't know about anyone else, but if he couldn't handle Jacques Smith, JJ Watt and Ahmad Brooks he ain't gonna handle Mack. The thought of Strief vs Mack is enough to scare the hell out of anyone.

I'm already having nightmares about Kalil Mack against Strief.

K Major 07-12-2016 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 708766)
I'm already having nightmares about Kalil Mack against Strief.

Yes sir, Mack is an animal (19 sacks in 2 seasons :hallucinate:). Have a TE "chip" him. Luckily we have months to prepare.

Rugby Saint II 07-12-2016 03:04 PM

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Fluff piece. Pure crap! Yes, I clicked on it. :brood:

ChrisXVI 07-12-2016 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 708766)
I'm already having nightmares about Kalil Mack against Strief.

Don't forget Bruce Irvin rushing as a strong side LB now right next to him. I'm not taking that game lightly at all.

jeanpierre 07-12-2016 04:13 PM

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Look, I'll be the first to tell you that we definitely need an upgrade at Right Tackle as Streif has admittedly struggled in some big games (e.g. Houston, San Francisco, Seattle) against speed outside edge guys...

So last year we drafted Peat at No. 13 and Peat, as has been subtly suggested he was out-of-shape joining the team, was never able to unseat Strief...

Thus, we got a right tackle who's rated top five at his position by PFF with a near top-10 selection in Peat unable to win the spot, and you dump him?!?

C'mon fellas, don't blame Strief because Peat hasn't stepped up to the plate...

NonieT 07-12-2016 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 708814)
Look, I'll be the first to tell you that we definitely need an upgrade at Right Tackle as Streif has admittedly struggled in some big games (e.g. Houston, San Francisco, Seattle) against speed outside edge guys...

So last year we drafted Peat at No. 13 and Peat, as has been subtly suggested he was out-of-shape joining the team, was never able to unseat Strief...

Thus, we got a right tackle who's rated top five at his position by PFF with a near top-10 selection in Peat unable to win the spot, and you dump him?!?

C'mon fellas, don't blame Strief because Peat hasn't stepped up to the plate...

I'm not blaming Peat for Strief's poor play, I'm blaming Strief. I don't care what he was rated, he nearly got Brees killed. He needs to be on the bench as a backup because that is about as good as he is.

Danno 07-12-2016 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 708848)
I'm not blaming Peat for Strief's poor play, I'm blaming Strief. I don't care what he was rated, he nearly got Brees killed. He needs to be on the bench as a backup because that is about as good as he is.

And whom should he be a backup to?

jeanpierre 07-12-2016 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 708848)
I'm not blaming Peat for Strief's poor play, I'm blaming Strief. I don't care what he was rated, he nearly got Brees killed. He needs to be on the bench as a backup because that is about as good as he is.

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 708849)
And whom should he be a backup to?

Exactly! Hey, I love Strief, 7th round pick, worked his arse off to become a really good right tackle in this league...

Drew is one of the fewest sacked/knocked down quarterbacks in this league, Thanks in part to Zach Strief...

The San Fran player y'all are trying to recollect is Ahmad Brooks - and he's been one of the best, and at times the best, SAM (Strongside) Linebacker in the league...

You can count the games on one hand, maybe two over his career, that Strief's had a bad game; sure they were big games where the challenger's talent is much better...

Is Strief getting old, slower and could use an upgrade - probably, sure...but WHO ARE YOU GOING TO REPLACE HIM WITH?!?

Training camp is coming and plenty of young bucks, including Peat, will have ample opportunity to wrest the right tackle job away from Strief...

But y'all remember this - Zach Strief is a warrior, he's never been a quitter, and he's not going to roll out the carpet for another player just because he's younger...

Someone is going to have to step up and win that job...

NonieT 07-13-2016 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 708849)
And whom should he be a backup to?

Peat! Peat! Peat! And anyone else. Warm the bench. That's where Streif belongs.

K Major 07-13-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 708897)
Peat! Peat! Peat! And anyone else. Warm the bench. That's where Streif belongs.

Just by looking at the current roster/depth chart, I think Peat will end up at RT. Don't discount changes in coaches (Roushar) & scheme. Again, no one has beat out Zach.

Training camp will tell the story.

CheramieIII 07-13-2016 04:39 PM

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jeanpierre 07-13-2016 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 708897)
Peat! Peat! Peat! And anyone else. Warm the bench. That's where Streif belongs.

Nonie, Peat couldn't win the job last year; what happens if Peat can't outplay Strief again?

dizzle88 07-14-2016 06:48 AM

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Charles brown had a string of bad games, he was then benched in favour of someone who couldn't get into the Lineman Stance at the beginning of the season - Terron Armstead

Now whilst Strief hasn't had a string of bad games, every time he has a bad outing Brees ends up getting injured.

He probably won't be cut, but in my opinion he's a couple plays away from being benched in favour of Peat.

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-14-2016 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 708943)
Charles brown had a string of bad games, he was then benched in favour of someone who couldn't get into the Lineman Stance at the beginning of the season - Terron Armstead

Now whilst Strief hasn't had a string of bad games, every time he has a bad outing Brees ends up getting injured.

He probably won't be cut, but in my opinion he's a couple plays away from being benched in favour of Peat.

So just to be clear, you think the O-line of:

Armstead
Kelemete
Unger
Lelito
Peat

is better than the current proposed starting 5:

Armstead
Kelemete/Lelito
Unger
Peat
Strief

SFIAH

dizzle88 07-14-2016 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 708962)
So just to be clear, you think the O-line of:

Armstead
Kelemete
Unger
Lelito
Peat

is better than the current proposed starting 5:

Armstead
Kelemete/Lelito
Unger
Peat
Strief

SFIAH

I never said either variation was better, but regardless of which ones better I think Strief is a couple hits on Brees away from riding the pine.

jeanpierre 07-14-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 708943)
Now whilst Strief hasn't had a string of bad games, every time he has a bad outing Brees ends up getting injured.

He probably won't be cut, but in my opinion he's a couple plays away from being benched in favour of Peat.

And why do you think it is Brees takes tough licks from Strief's side?

...Because edge defenders rarerly get around the behemoth before Brees has delivered a pass...It's rare...

Look, we could always use a more athletic right tackle in the screen and run game, but consider this before throwing him on the trash heap...

  • Ten Years Experience...

  • Rated Top 5 Right Tackle...

  • Very Cap Friendly Number...

  • Leader in the Locker Room...

  • Seventh Round Draft Pick...

  • Publically Stated He's Not Giving Away His Job...

K Major 07-14-2016 11:59 AM

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All I know is that we had THREE tackles hurt last year. Three. Plus with no guaranteed starter at either guard spot, we may still need Peat on the interior.

No need to rush Zach out the door just yet.

halloween 65 07-14-2016 06:59 PM

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Maybe we get lucky with an UDFA? Paytons been pretty good puting a line together with the exception of the Charlie Brown experiment. Our line looked better to me the longer the season went on. Strief will battle in camp just like the other guy will. May the best man win.


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