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WillSaints81 07-14-2016 01:41 PM

Well Snead has to worry about his role
 
If we get Boldin, he's likely going to the bench or sharing the slot with Thomas. Either way I'm not really liking this news. It's just taking away targets and snaps really with the more inexperienced receivers.

K Major 07-14-2016 01:43 PM

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Saints make an offer to veteran receiver Anquan Boldin | ProFootballTalk

brees84 07-14-2016 01:50 PM

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Boldin should be great mentor. Elite hands! Speed was never his game. One tough mot*****!

ChrisXVI 07-14-2016 01:56 PM

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Some of you have been praying for this. I'm a little surprised by it myself.

foreverfan 07-14-2016 02:04 PM

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Anquan Boldin turns 36 on WR October 3, 1980 1000+ League Catches

Willie Snead... Mr 3rd and 7.



papz 07-14-2016 02:10 PM

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There are plenty of balls to go around in the Saints offense... TONS actually. It shouldn't affect Snead much as he's shown he can play inside and out. Boldin would be a perfect fit in our offense.

K Major 07-14-2016 02:21 PM

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But he hasn't really fallen off that much & the hands are still elite. I still think we are missing a veteran presence at the position & AB could fill that void. 49ers (Kaep and Gabbert) were a hot mess last season yet AB had close to 800 yards receiving. The man is a tough as they come.

Mentor & teach. Isn't that what a lot of posters keep preaching here (veteran leadership)?? Snead & Coleman could clearly benefit long term with Boldin here.

WillSaints81 07-14-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 708982)
There are plenty of balls to go around in the Saints offense... TONS actually. It shouldn't affect Snead much as he's shown he can play inside and out. Boldin would be a perfect fit in our offense.


It's not about talent all the time. I often preach against this philosophy in fantasy. Boldin may make big plays but I don't know how effective he will be in a limited count. Cooks is the only sure thing and he's got tough corners to play. It's not just Snead it's Thomas. What is we have corners locking down Cooks and Boldin and we need Thomas to do something? What if he's rusted? I just looked at how pathetic our receiving catch rate was last year and want that avoided this year. Sorry I still don't have faith in the oline. Streif might be making excuses for his age putting down the fired ol coach.

K Major 07-14-2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 708988)
It's not about talent all the time. I often preach against this philosophy in fantasy. Boldin may make big plays but I don't know how effective he will be in a limited count.

WS,

This ain't fantasy football. Someone at WR will struggle & you need a capable veteran who you can depend on when it's 3rd and 6 with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter/game on the line ... especially since the great M Colston is gone.

Why do you think the organization is making a serious push to sign Mr. Boldin??

A natural gamer.

burningmetal 07-14-2016 03:25 PM

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I don't think anyone is taking snaps away from Snead. It's guys like Coleman (who's hype confuses me) that will likely be most affected.

I pooped all over the idea of signing Greg Jennings a while back (can't remember if it was last year or the year before), when people were talking about wanting to bring him in as a veteran presence. I didn't believe he had any game left, and he has kind of proven that indeed he doesn't have much left.

Boldin has remained productive throughout his career, with some unspectacular QB's much of the time. This is one older player who can help.

dam1953 07-14-2016 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 708981)
Anquan Boldin turns 36 on WR October 3, 1980 1000+ League Catches

Thanks for the Sneed video. Better than watching Sneed was watching Brees. It's like watching a great artist paint. The receivers are his brushes. The field is his canvas.

Hand him almost any brush and he'll produce a masterpiece.

WillSaints81 07-14-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 708992)
I don't think anyone is taking snaps away from Snead. It's guys like Coleman (who's hype confuses me) that will likely be most affected.

I pooped all over the idea of signing Greg Jennings a while back (can't remember if it was last year or the year before), when people were talking about wanting to bring him in as a veteran presence. I didn't believe he had any game left, and he has kind of proven that indeed he doesn't have much left.

Boldin has remained productive throughout his career, with some unspectacular QB's much of the time. This is one older player who can help.


Snead is the opposite wideout of Cooks. Boldin is a wideout, it would have to be Snead that loses the most snaps. Coleman was supposed to be the slot with Thomas. Snead can operate in the slot too. So really Snead and Thomas are looking at the kind of snaps Snead got last year. Coleman likely is a injury backup.

Rell&Gold 07-14-2016 05:54 PM

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Thomas is going to be on the outside

Rell&Gold 07-14-2016 05:55 PM

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At the most I think rotating in & out with Snead between the slot and outside

burningmetal 07-14-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 709003)
Snead is the opposite wideout of Cooks. Boldin is a wideout, it would have to be Snead that loses the most snaps. Coleman was supposed to be the slot with Thomas. Snead can operate in the slot too. So really Snead and Thomas are looking at the kind of snaps Snead got last year. Coleman likely is a injury backup.

Boldin is a receiver. He does not need to be pigeon holed as either a wideout or slot. He's a good route runner with elite hands, and is not particularly fast. He will get open wherever you put him, and he's generally going to work the intermediate routes regardless of where he lines up.

He'll move around much like all of the receivers do in the Saints' offense. Again, that means less playing time for Coleman, if he even makes the team, and who gets more playing time between Boldin and Thomas will be determined by how they perform in training camp.

Who knows, maybe Coleman improves dramatically and blows everyone away. The bottom line is that adding Boldin won't do anything but help, unlike a lot of other aging free agents who would just take up space.

44Champs 07-14-2016 06:48 PM

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So let's say Boldin DOES take snaps away from Snead. This is a team sport, and Boldin will only make the team better. We can't worry about how it's going to affect everyone else.

EDIT: Let'not use the initials "AB" to refer to Boldin LOL


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voodooido 07-14-2016 07:51 PM

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Snead s safe. He catches everything thrown toward him and is cheap.

ChrisXVI 07-14-2016 08:04 PM

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Snead doesn't have a damn thing to worry about. He's had chemistry with Brees from day one. It's Brandon Coleman who needs to worry.

QBREES9 07-14-2016 08:41 PM

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If he's open he'll get the ball.

neugey 07-14-2016 10:30 PM

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A gun-empty set with Cooks, Fleener, Boldin, Michael Thomas and Snead would be pretty nice, and I'm sure Sean thinks so too.

ScottF 07-15-2016 01:19 AM

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Colston missed games last year, Cooks missed 6,and Snead even missed one. It's a long season.
Seven guys caught 30 or more passes. Plenty of love to go around.

Rugby Saint II 07-15-2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 709037)
A gun-empty set with Cooks, Fleener, Boldin, Michael Thomas and Snead would be pretty nice, and I'm sure Sean thinks so too.

I don't think we have the O-line to run a five wide set often. We need additional blockers for Drew. jmho

jeanpierre 07-15-2016 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 708982)
There are plenty of balls to go around in the Saints offense... TONS actually. It shouldn't affect Snead much as he's shown he can play inside and out. Boldin would be a perfect fit in our offense.

Saints offense is at its most potent when we keep rotating weapons on the field like a hockey team changes the lines...

Keep going back to the game at Pittsburgh when we annihilated the Steelers at Heinz field, and Jimmy Graham was out...

All players should worry about their role - that's a healthy thing for NFL players so as to avoid complacency...

But what you're gonna see is a time share at the "X" receiver between Thomas and Boldin with Boldin mentoring...

However, anytime that so much hype gets out like this before a signing announcement, it usually doesn't happen...

neugey 07-15-2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 709071)
I don't think we have the O-line to run a five wide set often. We need additional blockers for Drew. jmho

True. Fleener and/or Boldin might need to line up next a tackle to chip a defender. I envision Drew getting the ball out fast too Patriots-style.

WillSaints81 07-18-2016 01:56 AM

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All I can say is why didn't they catch the balls enough last year. If a receiver is on the field for all of the snaps. Then he makes 7 out of 10 targets. If he's on the field for half, he makes 2 of 5.

Also, call me crazy Brees didn't really spread it around last year, at least not in the redzone, which is where we mostly stalled. Cooks, Watson, and Colston(yes, Colston) were the main redzone targets. That has to change.


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