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Why do you say no way? Defense went from the bottom to #4 in Ryan's first year.

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I agree with the #4 ranking but even being a 4th ranked D that year they didn't look that good as a whole. Rankings are overrated to me anyway. As long as we can field a stout D this season I'll be happy. I don't care where we rank.

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I think our guys are a bit new and haven't been working together as long as RR defense. We had a lot of veterans. It was also kind of an anomaly that year. Improvements like that are rare.

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Turnovers are about the only stat that directly translates into wins.

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As always, big ups to Chris and JP for the live feeds and video's.

Much appreciated.

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Not a problem man... I just don't want anybody to miss anything!

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How can I argue with that? The 2009 season tells that. I loved that season.

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I would say points scored is a more important stat both for the offense and defense. If the opponents offense can't score then we can't lose.

I'm drinking the Kool-aid...

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My cherry flavor is still in the pack, for now. It's next to the spoon, glass and water just in case.

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Followed ProFootball for over forty years, and I still get sucked into the optimism...

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LOVING IT!! INTERIOR PRESSURE!!

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Tuesday, Aug. 9 (Patriots joint practices) & subsequent pre season game next Thursday will be quite telling.

I'm hopeful that Brady plays a drive or two. We need to see what our defensive group can do against real competition & good coaching.

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It will make for a start.

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I love to watch the daily QB competitions too. Todays was great when they picked some kids from the crowd to join them.

Saints QB Challenge for August 4

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That what make our team great. Win or lose, they have the characteristic and genuine caring personalities that rub off unto each other

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That won't make a team great.

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Exactly. Yes we would all love a bunch of players that help old ladies across the street and eat all their vegetables but I would rather players that pushed old ladies down if it translates into wins. Assuming they aren't locker room problems.

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I'd rather root for players I like but that's just me.

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Hey thanks everyone for posting these updates. Utah is an NFL blackhole and you guys have not only made keeping up easy but you've made it fun too. My hats off to ya.

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You need some players with a attitude. Its just finding the right balance. The defense especially could have done with some nasty players out there

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