A scary thought for NFL defenses: Saints' 2nd-ranked offense looks even better, more explosive

hagan714 · 08-10-2016, 08:43 AM

Can Thomas replace Colston production of last year?
should not be so hard

Can Fleener replacing Watson out put?
Big question should be close

Will the play of the OL improve?
QB Hits/Hurries are way to high and lead to stupid turn overs.

Sacks are an issue but only tell part of the story
2015 31
2014 29
2013 37
2012 26
2011 24
2010 25
2009 20

Once again can the OL give Drew an that extra split second in the pocket and keep him off the turf? Can the OL open running lanes to keep the defenses honest

OL is the key as usual despite the love for the glamor positions

Drew needs the defense to step up and silence the little voices in his head telling him " You needs to score on every drive because the defense can stop squat."

Do that and this will be a fun season to watch

dam1953 · 08-10-2016, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Can Thomas replace Colston production of last year?
should not be so hard

Can Fleener replacing Watson out put?
Big question should be close

Will the play of the OL improve?
QB Hits/Hurries are way to high and lead to stupid turn overs.....

....Do that and this will be a fun season to watch

I personally think the uptick in sacks was partially due to a wide receiver corp that could't get separation. Brees was forced to hold the ball longer or throw into tight coverage. Whether this was due to receivers aging or not, who knows.

Across the board, the current slate of receivers are young and fast. Very fast. Take into consideration some of the UDFAs like Lewis, and we may have one of the fastest receiving corps in the NFL.

That should help keeps sacks down.

dizzle88 · 08-10-2016, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

I personally think the uptick in sacks was partially due to a wide receiver corp that could't get separation. Brees was forced to hold the ball longer or throw into tight coverage. Whether this was due to receivers aging or not, who knows.

Across the board, the current slate of receivers are young and fast. Very fast. Take into consideration some of the UDFAs like Lewis, and we may have one of the fastest receiving corps in the NFL.

That should help keeps sacks down.

Plus it sounds as though CJ Spiller is fully healthy and has that cut on a dime agility he didnt have last year.

Payton will be drawing all sorts of plays up for a healthy CJ.

dam1953 · 08-10-2016, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Plus it sounds as though CJ Spiller is fully healthy and has that cut on a dime agility he didnt have last year.

Payton will be drawing all sorts of plays up for a healthy CJ.

Agree. Watching some of the press conferences, Payton has had that gleam in his eye again. Haven't seen it since the bounty days. Like opening presents on Christmas Eve, he can't wait for the sun to come up so he can take them outside and play.

AsylumGuido · 08-10-2016, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Agree. Watching some of the press conferences, Payton has had that gleam in his eye again. Haven't seen it since the bounty days. Like opening presents on Christmas Eve, he can't wait for the sun to come up so he can take them outside and play.

Excuse me? There were never any "bounties". That was a fallacy perpetrated by a lowlife named Mike Cerullo and bought hook, line and sinker by that freakin' arsehole Roger Goodell.

saintfan · 08-10-2016, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

I personally think the uptick in sacks was partially due to a wide receiver corp that could't get separation. Brees was forced to hold the ball longer or throw into tight coverage. Whether this was due to receivers aging or not, who knows.

Across the board, the current slate of receivers are young and fast. Very fast. Take into consideration some of the UDFAs like Lewis, and we may have one of the fastest receiving corps in the NFL.

That should help keeps sacks down.

I don't know what to attribute it to either, but I saw it too. He (Drew) seemed indecisive, which just looks weird on Brees, and you could tell. At times I'm sayin.

dam1953 · 08-10-2016, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I don't know what to attribute it to either, but I saw it too. He (Drew) seemed indecisive, which just looks weird on Brees, and you could tell. At times I'm sayin.

I just looked up YAC (yards after catch) numbers for '09 - '15. Last year was one of Brees' better years. '10 and 14' were the only years where he was below 5.35. So, it doesn't seem like this trends with sacks. I just recall game after games it looked like our receivers were covered, Brees would squeeze a pass into a seam and we were getting little yardage after the catch.

08-10-2016, 08:43 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: A scary thought for NFL defenses: Saints' 2nd-ranked offense looks even better, more explosive Can Thomas replace Colston production of last year? should not be so hard Can Fleener replacing Watson out put? Big question should be close Will the play of the OL improve? QB Hits/Hurries are way to high and lead to stupid turn overs. Sacks are an issue but only tell part of the story 2015 31 2014 29 2013 37 2012 26 2011 24 2010 25 2009 20 Once again can the OL give Drew an that extra split second in the pocket and keep him off the turf? Can the OL open running lanes to keep the defenses honest OL is the key as usual despite the love for the glamor positions Drew needs the defense to step up and silence the little voices in his head telling him " You needs to score on every drive because the defense can stop squat." Do that and this will be a fun season to watch mleg1972, SmashMouth and dizzle88 like this.
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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: A scary thought for NFL defenses: Saints' 2nd-ranked offense looks even better, more explosive Originally Posted by hagan714 Can Thomas replace Colston production of last year? should not be so hard Can Fleener replacing Watson out put? Big question should be close Will the play of the OL improve? QB Hits/Hurries are way to high and lead to stupid turn overs..... ....Do that and this will be a fun season to watch I personally think the uptick in sacks was partially due to a wide receiver corp that could't get separation. Brees was forced to hold the ball longer or throw into tight coverage. Whether this was due to receivers aging or not, who knows. Across the board, the current slate of receivers are young and fast. Very fast. Take into consideration some of the UDFAs like Lewis, and we may have one of the fastest receiving corps in the NFL. That should help keeps sacks down.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: A scary thought for NFL defenses: Saints' 2nd-ranked offense looks even better, more explosive Originally Posted by dam1953 I personally think the uptick in sacks was partially due to a wide receiver corp that could't get separation. Brees was forced to hold the ball longer or throw into tight coverage. Whether this was due to receivers aging or not, who knows. Across the board, the current slate of receivers are young and fast. Very fast. Take into consideration some of the UDFAs like Lewis, and we may have one of the fastest receiving corps in the NFL. That should help keeps sacks down. Plus it sounds as though CJ Spiller is fully healthy and has that cut on a dime agility he didnt have last year. Payton will be drawing all sorts of plays up for a healthy CJ. dam1953 likes this.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: A scary thought for NFL defenses: Saints' 2nd-ranked offense looks even better, more explosive Originally Posted by dizzle88 Plus it sounds as though CJ Spiller is fully healthy and has that cut on a dime agility he didnt have last year. Payton will be drawing all sorts of plays up for a healthy CJ. Agree. Watching some of the press conferences, Payton has had that gleam in his eye again. Haven't seen it since the bounty days. Like opening presents on Christmas Eve, he can't wait for the sun to come up so he can take them outside and play. dizzle88 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,769	Re: A scary thought for NFL defenses: Saints' 2nd-ranked offense looks even better, more explosive Originally Posted by dam1953 Agree. Watching some of the press conferences, Payton has had that gleam in his eye again. Haven't seen it since the bounty days. Like opening presents on Christmas Eve, he can't wait for the sun to come up so he can take them outside and play. Excuse me? There were never any "bounties". That was a fallacy perpetrated by a lowlife named Mike Cerullo and bought hook, line and sinker by that freakin' arsehole Roger Goodell. SaintFanInATLHELL and SmashMouth like this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: A scary thought for NFL defenses: Saints' 2nd-ranked offense looks even better, more explosive Originally Posted by dam1953 I personally think the uptick in sacks was partially due to a wide receiver corp that could't get separation. Brees was forced to hold the ball longer or throw into tight coverage. Whether this was due to receivers aging or not, who knows. Across the board, the current slate of receivers are young and fast. Very fast. Take into consideration some of the UDFAs like Lewis, and we may have one of the fastest receiving corps in the NFL. That should help keeps sacks down. I don't know what to attribute it to either, but I saw it too. He (Drew) seemed indecisive, which just looks weird on Brees, and you could tell. At times I'm sayin.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: A scary thought for NFL defenses: Saints' 2nd-ranked offense looks even better, more explosive Originally Posted by saintfan I don't know what to attribute it to either, but I saw it too. He (Drew) seemed indecisive, which just looks weird on Brees, and you could tell. At times I'm sayin. I just looked up YAC (yards after catch) numbers for '09 - '15. Last year was one of Brees' better years. '10 and 14' were the only years where he was below 5.35. So, it doesn't seem like this trends with sacks. I just recall game after games it looked like our receivers were covered, Brees would squeeze a pass into a seam and we were getting little yardage after the catch.

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