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SmashMouth 08-23-2016 06:35 AM

Saints hopeful Andrus Peat's return to RG stabilizes OL
 
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The New Orleans Saints offensive line has experienced its share of struggles through two preseason games.

Quarterbacks Drew Brees, Luke McCown and Garrett Grayson have combined for four sacks, and Brees has been on the receiving end of jarring hits.

But coach Sean Payton remains hopeful the starting offensive line will stabilize soon with left tackle Terron Armstead's return, which allows Andrus Peat to move back to right guard.

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With Armstead missing parts of training camp with an injury, the Saints called upon second-year pro Peat to play left tackle. The shuffling of the 6-foot-7, 316-pound Peat from right guard to left tackle may have contributed to some of the issues present in the first two preseason games.

"It's one of the things we talked about," Payton said Monday. "Guard and tackle is one thing, but when it's left side of the ball and right side of the ball, your stance changes."

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halloween 65 08-23-2016 06:45 AM

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This is just my thoughts but wouldn't it seem a little easier for Peat to play LG since he played LT in college and then if Armstead missed some games slide him in at LT so his feet don't get confused.

jeanpierre 08-23-2016 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 713720)
This is just my thoughts but wouldn't it seem a little easier for Peat to play LG since he played LT in college and then if Armstead missed some games slide him in at LT so his feet don't get confused.

Good Idea. Saints kind did the same thing with Jim Dombrowski, but he went from Tackle to Guard, but stayed on the same side of the line...

AsylumGuido 08-23-2016 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 713720)
This is just my thoughts but wouldn't it seem a little easier for Peat to play LG since he played LT in college and then if Armstead missed some games slide him in at LT so his feet don't get confused.

I'm thinking it might be more likely that Strief misses time than Armstead given his age. In that case it does make more sense, using your logic, that he remains at RG.

halloween 65 08-23-2016 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 713726)
I'm thinking it might be more likely that Strief misses time than Armstead given his age. In that case it does make more sense, using your logic, that he remains at RG.

I do worry about Strief this season more than any other season he has been solid over the years but Peat has had bad trouble playing RT before and RG. Lelito could pull RG duties but I don't think he's able to play RT at a high level. There is noone really behind Strief I see being able to do his job.

Crusader 08-23-2016 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 713720)
This is just my thoughts but wouldn't it seem a little easier for Peat to play LG since he played LT in college and then if Armstead missed some games slide him in at LT so his feet don't get confused.

It has to do with long term plans. Hopefully Armstead is the starting LT the next 10-12 years. Peat will probably never play that position for the Saints other than in an emergency. Therefor its better to play him at RG so he can get used to that side.

Cruize 08-23-2016 07:58 AM

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Peat will be okay at guard. The staff blew it thinking Lelito or Kelemete could hold down the other spot. They're backups in the NFL. Not starters.

Euphoria 08-23-2016 08:13 AM

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All this means is lets hope we don't need to play Peat at the Tackle positions because then we are doomed.

dizzle88 08-23-2016 08:16 AM

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I'd rather have Strief face Kalil Mack than Andrus Peat

We'll be carting Brees off if Peat is going against Mack.

hagan714 08-23-2016 08:20 AM

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if he is going to take over at RT next this is where he needs to be. He should have been playing RG all year last year. gotta get the reps to get use to setting up and moving to his right. last year he got a glimpse of playing OG so this year should be all about fine tuning his skill set.

we will have a good idea by week 8 if he will be able to jump outside in year 3

ScottF 08-23-2016 08:31 AM

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As SP said, the key is the side, not the position.
Some guys never get the hang of getting out of the stance on the other side.

Crusader 08-23-2016 08:34 AM

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To understand how big of a change it can be to change stance, try writing with your left hand if you are right handed.

Thats pretty much how big a change it is. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it, it will just take a little time.

SmashMouth 08-23-2016 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 713740)
To understand how big of a change it can be to change stance, try writing with your left hand if you are right handed.

Thats pretty much how big a change it is. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it, it will just take a little time.

Makes sense... but he DID go to Stanford, right? He should be smart enough to handle this, no? :confused:

AsylumGuido 08-23-2016 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 713744)
Makes sense... but he DID go to Stanford, right? He should be smart enough to handle this, no? :confused:

It's not mental, it's physical.

ScottF 08-23-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 713740)
To understand how big of a change it can be to change stance, try writing with your left hand if you are right handed.

Thats pretty much how big a change it is. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it, it will just take a little time.

good analogy
and now try doing it with JJ Watt waiting to run thru you

SmashMouth 08-23-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 713746)
It's not mental, it's physical.

But still not like trying to write with your other hand for the first time in 25 years. So okay, he's got to learn to use an opposite technique. A smart person can adapt. Maybe's he's not as smart as we'd like him to be.

K Major 08-23-2016 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 713732)
The staff blew it thinking Lelito or Kelemete could hold down the other spot. They're backups in the NFL. Not starters.

Lelito has really played poorly this camp ... backup material at best.

st thomas 08-23-2016 09:52 AM

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clowney owned the left side he made his debut but he will be figured out with a running back helping out, we didn't worry about that in a preseason game. i'm just concerned again how we are still so predictable when ingram is in the game, run, screen, sneak out of backfield five yards down and get plummled, five yards in flat for a couple of yards or usually a dump pass that don't reach him by design. spiller has to be that break up the pattern payton has designed and kill the predictability.

K Major 08-23-2016 10:01 AM

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It's time for PEAT to buckle down & focus @ RG. At least he won't be on an island at the tackle spot or a TE in to assist. Not to mention he will have UNGER on his inside. Communication will be key.

Wise decision to stop the shuffling.

jnormand 08-23-2016 12:03 PM

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I've played left guard then switched to right tackle the following year. It really isn't that difficult. It's just about movement. Hands up, and stepping back with the right foot instead of the left. Of course I didn't play NFL.

Crusader 08-23-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 713754)
But still not like trying to write with your other hand for the first time in 25 years. So okay, he's got to learn to use an opposite technique. A smart person can adapt. Maybe's he's not as smart as we'd like him to be.

Guido is absolutely right, it doesn't have anything to do with smarts its a pure physical learning that needs to take place and that takes a different amount of time for everybody. The assignments for a position is just mirrored, thats the easiest part.
I have done the transition myself from RT to LT in the club team, then to RG with the national team, C (a wholly different thing) and then LG, it takes time to get used to, and most of all reps.

Rugby Saint II 08-23-2016 03:30 PM

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Peat is in terrible shape and still needs core strength and conditioning to handle the various rushes from NFL linemen. Watching him run sprints at practice was just painful to sit through. Play him at RG this year and look for a guard or two next year and move him to RT to take over for Strief. If not hopefully he will develop into a quality starting RG. He just needs to learn how to get tougher in the trenches.

How do you teach nasty? In the old days a coach could grab you by the face mask and shake you while he yelled at you. That was how we used to do it. Maybe he needs to room with Nick Fairley. :wink:

NOLA54 08-23-2016 04:42 PM

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I'm in favor of whatever makes us better.

Danno 08-23-2016 05:17 PM

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Btw, he's the same age as a 2016/2017 rookie. He's got the size, the athleticism, and the intelligence to play in this league, he may just need more time than your typical 1st rounder does. Sucks for us this year but I wouldn't give up on him yet

darstep 08-23-2016 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 713812)
How do you teach nasty? In the old days a coach could grab you by the face mask and shake you while he yelled at you. That was how we used to do it. Maybe he needs to room with Nick Fairley. :wink:

Pull out that Black&Gold paddle!
The one with holes cut out so it whistles the wind...
That would fire him up.
Now that's real old school.

RockyMountainSaint 08-23-2016 10:29 PM

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We didn't want to play Armstead more snaps than he should have in his first week coming back. Hopefully we'll be able to keep Peat on the right side and be able to get a lot of reps with that one group."

Hopefully?
Who makes that decision?
You do Sean.
Because if you move Peat one more time?
I think several BnG members will snap!
Think of the lives you will save Sean!

MatthewT 08-24-2016 06:54 AM

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If I was the decision maker for the Saints, I would immediately hire Conrad Dobler as a special consultant for Peat. A nice dosage of nasty aggressiveness may turn this kid around.

billyt81 08-28-2016 11:42 PM

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This is probably the best most relevant post so far this year. Yes we need the D to improve which I believe it will but a dominant O Line could give us a Bowl victory on its own in my opinion. Of course were far from that today but gosh if we could run the ball, we'd be dangerous.

WillSaints81 08-29-2016 12:51 PM

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Peat needs a personal coach. Sometimes it can't be all on the team to help him. Players that want to win find their own sources and help away from the team.


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