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SmashMouth 08-25-2016 08:27 PM

Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
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Patriots love LSU players.

QBREES9 08-25-2016 09:23 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Good question. Only Bill, can answer that.

jonnyrotten 08-25-2016 09:27 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
<Sarcasm> Well this has never been discussed before....

jeanpierre 08-25-2016 09:31 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Oh for F*cks-sake!

SP would have taken Odell if he'd been there for us...he wasn't...

32 NFL teams didn't draft Lael Collins...so you'd have to corral them in you LSU hate sub-group along with SP...

Devery was an awful second round pick that Sean Payton and Curtis Johnson were able to reclaimate rather than cut loose...

Payton and Loomis did everything within reason to draft Glenn Dorsey, but the Chiefs' President Carl Peterson held the fifth pick for a King's ransom...

They still gaffed though and took USC Sedrick Ellis who promptly held out and never worked a day in his life for the Saints and its fans...

SP doesn't hate on LSU...

UK_WhoDat 08-27-2016 01:46 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 714030)
Good question. Only Bill, can answer that.

and maybe Sean

The Dude 08-27-2016 01:51 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Jesus H Christ not this again...

vpheughan 08-27-2016 03:43 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Mickie heard someone from LSU say something he didn't like while the opposing sidelines were bugged!

Does this prove they hate LSU? No it doesn't. More importantly Does it prove they DON'T? Well there you have it!!! I think I'll call it "The no Proof, Proof"


"You may hate LSU today, but will you be hurting tomorrow?" At Dougins

Danno 08-27-2016 03:53 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
And I don't see any Vandy players either. WTF???

How about Florida, Arkansas, S Carolina, Kentucky?

RailBoss 08-27-2016 04:04 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Well let's ask the question which Coach is more successful.

vpheughan 08-27-2016 04:23 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Which one "Cheats" more?

vpheughan 08-28-2016 08:46 AM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Here's one : Colrado University of Mines. It would apear Payton also hates C.U...........let the kiddies fill in the last letter!

Seer1 08-28-2016 10:10 AM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Yes Virginia, there is yet another stupid question.

burningmetal 08-28-2016 11:57 AM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 714388)
And I don't see any Vandy players either. WTF???

How about Florida, Arkansas, S Carolina, Kentucky?

Who would we want from Vandy? Jay Cutler? None of those teams you mentioned put out as many top round talents as LSU.

That being said, I don't actually believe he "hates" LSU. But as I've said in the past, it's very odd when you have a local team that puts out that many players in positions of need, that you wouldn't at least take late round picks on them. It almost seems like Sean wants to make a point that he isn't going to cave into fan pressure. He shouldn't take a player just because he plays for any of the teams in Louisiana. But LSU is one of those teams that consistently puts out elite talent.

The Patriots, Cardinals and Bills seem to think very highly of LSU players. The Saints think very highly of Ohio State players. If you pay close enough attention, you will notice that certain teams build something of a pipeline with particular schools. It isn't just luck. I think it's a trust thing, as well.

vpheughan 08-28-2016 12:52 PM

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All the other teams are in collusion with teams who "build something of a pipeline?" How do they know the player they want will be in the "pipeline" when they select?

burningmetal 08-28-2016 01:12 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 714534)
All the other teams are in collusion with teams who "build something of a pipeline?" How do they know the player they want will be in the "pipeline" when they select?

Nobody other than you is suggesting there would need to be collusion. If you were selecting multiple players, every year, from the same schools, then that might raise a red flag. But when you take a fairly high number of players from the same school, over the years, it suggests that you value not just the players themselves, but you trust in that school's ability and reputation to prepare it's players. The fact that other teams aren't jumping on those players before your team does is very simple. They don't share the same value.

You don't have to know the player will be there. The track record suggests that WHEN those players are available these teams I mentioned are jumping on the opportunity.

vpheughan 08-28-2016 06:01 PM

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Don't twist my words. I suggested nothing. I asked a question.

pherein 08-28-2016 06:16 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 714405)
Which one "Cheats" more?

Which fan hasnt learned that all teams push the edge and are falsely accused by Goodell , or are you implying Goddell was right about us cheating ? Think next time.
So sick of non thinking fans diminishing BB by just saying he cheats all day so stupid. They are just afraid or envious of a good coach.

Danno 08-28-2016 06:28 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
I'm curious,
why do people think Belickeck loves LSU players?
Why do people think Payton doesn't?

burningmetal 08-28-2016 10:30 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 714598)
Don't twist my words. I suggested nothing. I asked a question.

I don't go around twisting words, buddy. You ASKED that question suggesting that any sort of "pipeline", as I put it, would have to involve collusion by other teams. And I gave you my answer.

burningmetal 08-28-2016 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 714604)
I'm curious,
why do people think Belickeck loves LSU players?
Why do people think Payton doesn't?

Whether or not you believe in the whole love/hate thing, the reasoning why some think that is very straight forward. The Patriots have selected a bunch of LSU players, and Sean has done the opposite.

billyt81 08-28-2016 11:02 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 714036)
Oh for F*cks-sake!

SP would have taken Odell if he'd been there for us...he wasn't...

32 NFL teams didn't draft Lael Collins...so you'd have to corral them in you LSU hate sub-group along with SP...

Devery was an awful second round pick that Sean Payton and Curtis Johnson were able to reclaimate rather than cut loose..

Payton and Loomis did everything within reason to draft Glenn Dorsey, but the Chiefs' President Carl Peterson held the fifth pick for a King's ransom...

They still gaffed though and took USC Sedrick Ellis who promptly held out and never worked a day in his life for the Saints and its fans...

SP doesn't hate on LSU...

Peyton didn't draft Henderson if I recall correctly. Those who don't believe this bias always bring up guys we wanted to draft but didn't. I love how the Cardinals raid LSU and SEC players. I bet the Cardinals D is great this year with Peterson, Matthieu, NKimdiche and others. Peyton likes big 10 and Midwest players. There are too many awesome LSU players in the NFL for the Saints to have zero. Kwon Alexander 4.3 40, 3rd Rd pick starts for Tampa. Stanley Jean Baptiste over Jarvis Landry. KV over Eric Reid. I could go on and on. We won't take Fournette no matter what, even though all of Louisiana would love it and hes more athletic than AP. I think Peyton s worst trait is talent evaluation especially in early Rds. We have hit on some late picks and free agents. When was the last time we drafted a great first Rd pick? Or 2nd?

Rugby Saint II 08-30-2016 01:58 PM

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Maybe Sean's an Alabama fan...........Roll Tide!!! :razz:

K Major 08-30-2016 02:15 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Hindsight is always 20/20 but in light of all of the O line issues and shuffling of Peat, I wonder if the Saints FO even took a serious flyer on Trai Turner coming out of LSU? I mean in two short seasons he has improved his craft with the Carolina Panthers & is a legitimate player (2015 Pro Bowler) at the GUARD position.

Not bashing the Saints FO, but damn there is ELITE talent in our backyard (Baton Rouge) that can play at a high level on Sundays. Makes you wonder what the area scouts are looking for in players.

Anyway ...

SmashMouth 08-30-2016 03:54 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 715167)
Maybe Sean's an Alabama fan...........Roll Tide!!! :razz:

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Seer1 08-30-2016 07:40 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Lookin' at the roster, he's definitely a fan of THE Ohio State University!

Perhaps buying him a purple and yellow "I've Slept With Les" shirt might sway him that way???

Budsdrinker 09-01-2016 01:06 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 714394)
Well let's ask the question which Coach is more successful.

Now how do you want to go about deciding more successful? Compare each
coaches first 9 years since that all Sean Payton has been head coach?
If you do that Payton is more successful with an 87-57 record compared to
Belichick's 75-69 record to start a coaching career.

QBREES9 09-01-2016 11:51 PM

Re: Why Does Belichick Love LSU Players and SP Does Not?
 
Maybe Sean could learn something from Bill about LSU players.


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