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burningmetal 08-31-2016 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 715299)
Oh he does 30-35 tackles and 3-4 sacks we can get that from our guys already is my point....whats the point in bringing in someone who is going to be less than or equal to your current players at that position?....he isn't giving us 8-10 sacks plus pressures guaranteed
He had a down year on a bad team. He had 11 sacks the year before, and I'm not believing he lost that physical ability in one year. And even his stats from last year are double what McCain has done in TWO years, in terms of sacks. Triple or quadruple in tackles (I can't remember off hand the number of tackles McCain has, but it's low). I'm not saying Kruger would come in and be an all-pro. I'm saying he's better than a bunch of guys who have barely played yet, and some who haven't even been playing the game, at any level, for very long. You got to have someone around to take the pressure off the unproven, and it's not like we're going to go get a superstar right before the season starts.

K Major 08-31-2016 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 715300)
He was cut because of the players behind him potential and the lack of production on his part...If he would've gotten another 11 sack season this year he would not have been cut
I was sharing a article from the Dawgpound that you may hadn't had a chance to read.

As for Cleveland and evaluating players ....they hadn't had much to write home about over the last 40 years so take the Kruger release with a grain of salt.

lee909 08-31-2016 07:37 AM
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The Browns are ckeanung house they swapped punters with Carolina so they could get a 4th round pick added

Also i wouldn't trust their evaluations on players. Lance Moore and Willie Snead were cut by the Browns

Rell&Gold 08-31-2016 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 715301)
He had a down year on a bad team. He had 11 sacks the year before, and I'm not believing he lost that physical ability in one year. And even his stats from last year are double what McCain has done in TWO years, in terms of sacks. Triple or quadruple in tackles (I can't remember off hand the number of tackles McCain has, but it's low). I'm not saying Kruger would come in and be an all-pro. I'm saying he's better than a bunch of guys who have barely played yet, and some who haven't even been playing the game, at any level, for very long. You got to have someone around to take the pressure off the unproven, and it's not like we're going to go get a superstar right before the season starts.
I established the 1 year removed from 11 sacks & 5-7 sacks wouldve been a down year not 2.5 and 27 tackles & I was referencing Kassim not Mccain Kassim had 5 sacks last year and didnt start he(Paul) started all but one game it might be a good move if our interior line can compliment him well buI dont realyl see him being that significant to us JMO

Rell&Gold 08-31-2016 08:32 AM
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And Im not insinuating that we would be able to get a superstar, Im simply saying I feel the move is waste because his production we already have 2.5 SACKS & 30 tackles come on! If hes coming off the bench cool but not as a starter

Rell&Gold 08-31-2016 08:34 AM
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Alot of teams let gems walk, They also have Josh Gordon the Rookie whos hurt at the moment & Pryor who looks the part

Rell&Gold 08-31-2016 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 715316)
The Browns are ckeanung house they swapped punters with Carolina so they could get a 4th round pick added

Also i wouldn't trust their evaluations on players. Lance Moore and Willie Snead were cut by the Browns
You could say the same for us

K Major 08-31-2016 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 715334)
And Im not insinuating that we would be able to get a superstar, Im simply saying I feel the move is waste because his production we already have 2.5 SACKS & 30 tackles come on! If hes coming off the bench cool but not as a starter
Rell,

I can understand you not liking the signing but did we just get worse by adding Kruger to the roster?

lee909 08-31-2016 08:49 AM
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The mans a fighter

Kruger went through two serious childhood accidents.[8] He lost a kidney and his spleen and almost died in his Uncle's jeep accident at age 13.[9] In college at Salt Lake City, Utah, (January 29, 2008) a street stabbing left him with a collapsed lung and a 6.5 inch scar on his chest. A screwdriver was driven through the back of a Ute teammate and brass knuckles were used to break the nose and shatter the cheekbone of his younger brother. The fight left Kruger with "life-threatening injuries" that required nearly 50 staples to close the incisions made during a four-hour surgery

burningmetal 08-31-2016 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 715332)
I established the 1 year removed from 11 sacks & 5-7 sacks wouldve been a down year not 2.5 and 27 tackles & I was referencing Kassim not Mccain Kassim had 5 sacks last year and didnt start he(Paul) started all but one game it might be a good move if our interior line can compliment him well buI dont realyl see him being that significant to us JMO
What are you talking about? I don't know or care who you were referencing. I was making my own point about McCain and the lack of experience/production with a bunch of projects. They needed help, and now it looks like they got it.

It is your opinion that going from 11 sacks to 5-7 sacks is a down year. I'm giving my opinion. A down year is a down year. It's one year removed, either way, and I just don't believe that he suddenly lost it. He might not come here and get double digits, but if he can be somewhere around 8, that's a heck of a lot better then you're likely to get from anyone else not named Cam Jordan. Edebali and Gwacham have shown their flashes, but they are too raw to be relied on still.

|Mitch| 08-31-2016 11:11 AM
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I see this as a massive upgrade if the plan is to play him on the weak-side... An actual end with some weight in his back pocket to help set the edge.

K Major 08-31-2016 12:13 PM
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Mitch,

Feel free to hit us one time with one of those YouTube thingamagingies of Kruger coming of of the tunnel :p !

|Mitch| 08-31-2016 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 715403)
Mitch,

Feel free to hit us one time with one of those YouTube thingamagingies of Kruger coming of of the tunnel :p !
I can't find anything; except for a highlight video from 6 years ago... :doh:

CheramieIII 08-31-2016 03:10 PM
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Kruger and McCain were added to upgrade the upgrade we already had. Come on guys we added Fairley and Rankins and Now Kruger and McCain this is not unhappiness on Payton's part this is the killer instinct kicking in. SP can smell blood in the water and this year it won't be ours.

Rell&Gold 08-31-2016 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 715337)
Rell,

I can understand you not liking the signing but did we just get worse by adding Kruger to the roster?
No we didnt get worse and the depth alone helps, but it just irritates me when they wait till the worse situation to invest in a Pass Rusher when that has been needed for a while its like I just don't get the logic sometimes, we haven't had depth at that position for a WHILE & this is how the SAINTS "address" it....They Banked on Kikaha & I'm a fan don't get me wrong but we should've came right back this year and drafted another Pass Rusher

Rell&Gold 08-31-2016 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 715360)
What are you talking about? I don't know or care who you were referencing. I was making my own point about McCain and the lack of experience/production with a bunch of projects. They needed help, and now it looks like they got it.

It is your opinion that going from 11 sacks to 5-7 sacks is a down year. I'm giving my opinion. A down year is a down year. It's one year removed, either way, and I just don't believe that he suddenly lost it. He might not come here and get double digits, but if he can be somewhere around 8, that's a heck of a lot better then you're likely to get from anyone else not named Cam Jordan. Edebali and Gwacham have shown their flashes, but they are too raw to be relied on still.
11-2.5 is a terrible year, Was he hurt? IF? IF? Suddenly lost it? He never had it

Rell&Gold 08-31-2016 08:37 PM
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Kruger had the "Juice" not the "MOJO"


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