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Danno 09-05-2016 04:37 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 716384)
Buccaneers, Redskins, Packers, Vikings.....

Bucs? Uhh no! Is this a serious comment? Do you actually think they are significantly better than we are? Why?

Redskins, they are not significantly better than we are. Probably equal to us I'll admit but no, they are not significantly better than we are.

Packers? Maybe. Their offense and defense were just mediocre last year. I don't think they made any significant changes either. We improved quite a bit more on defense than they did. Might be your only valid point, but I wouldn't say they're much better than we are.

Vikings, they just lost their 2nd best player on offense for the year. Bradford is no Teddy Bridgewater. Shaun Hill will be taking snaps by week 8.

Just my opinion but I think your wrong on all 4 points.

WillSaints81 09-05-2016 04:45 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 716565)
Bucs? Uhh no! Is this a serious comment? Do you actually think they are significantly better than we are? Why?

Redskins, they are not significantly better than we are. Probably equal to us I'll admit but no, they are not significantly better than we are.

Packers? Maybe. Their offense and defense were just mediocre last year. I don't think they made any significant changes either. We improved quite a bit more on defense than they did. Might be your only valid point, but I wouldn't say they're much better than we are.

Vikings, they just lost their 2nd best player on offense for the year. Bradford is no Teddy Bridgewater. Shaun Hill will be taking snaps by week 8.

Just my opinion but I think your wrong on all 4 points.

The packers.........they have the best QB in the NFL who can make crazy TD passes at the end, a WR who can burn CBs because of Cobb and Lacy and now Cook. Rodgers can see over his linemen unlike Brees and does not need great protection he just needs Nelson. Rodgers can do things with a bad line that Brees cannot.

And trust me if you don't want Carolina to win a SB you better be hoping for GB to win because they are the only team that can win in Carolina in January because they are not a west coast team. I sure would hope GB was that much better than us if we were not good because I believe Carolina has no chance in Lambeau in January. A inexperienced playoff team is not even beating Carolina at home sorry to say. There are only three teams and two of them are fighting each other in the division which takes away from their HFA potential because of the other two pesty rivals.

AsylumGuido 09-05-2016 04:52 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 716567)
The packers.........they have the best QB in the NFL who can make crazy TD passes at the end, a WR who can burn CBs because of Cobb and Lacy and now Cook. Rodgers can see over his linemen unlike Brees and does not need great protection he just needs Nelson. Rodgers can do things with a bad line that Brees cannot.

And trust me if you don't want Carolina to win a SB you better be hoping for GB to win because they are the only team that can win in Carolina in January because they are not a west coast team. I sure would hope GB was that much better than us if we were not good because I believe Carolina has no chance in Lambeau in January. A inexperienced playoff team is not even beating Carolina at home sorry to say. There are only three teams and two of them are fighting each other in the division which takes away from their HFA potential because of the other two pesty rivals.
I know you can't read this, but you put far too much confidence in Carolina. The fifteen wins last season were smoke and mirrors. They had every break imaginable go their way. They were exposed by a weak Atlanta squad at the end of the regular season and totally demoralized by a team with a shell of a player at QB. I can easily see them dropping two or three in a row early and that ***** Newton pouting through the rest of the season.

Danno 09-05-2016 04:56 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 716567)
The packers.........they have the best QB in the NFL who can make crazy TD passes at the end, a WR who can burn CBs because of Cobb and Lacy and now Cook. Rodgers can see over his linemen unlike Brees and does not need great protection he just needs Nelson. Rodgers can do things with a bad line that Brees cannot.

And trust me if you don't want Carolina to win a SB you better be hoping for GB to win because they are the only team that can win in Carolina in January because they are not a west coast team. I sure would hope GB was that much better than us if we were not good because I believe Carolina has no chance in Lambeau in January. A inexperienced playoff team is not even beating Carolina at home sorry to say. There are only three teams and two of them are fighting each other in the division which takes away from their HFA potential because of the other two pesty rivals.

Packers vs. Saints - Box Score - October 26, 2014 - ESPN
Saints 44
Packers 23

With the 2nd worst defense in the history of the NFL I might add.

I'm not sold they're significantly better than we are at all.

Danno 09-05-2016 04:56 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 716569)
I know you can't read this, but you put far too much confidence in Carolina. The fifteen wins last season were smoke and mirrors. They had every break imaginable go their way. They were exposed by a weak Atlanta squad at the end of the regular season and totally demoralized by a team with a shell of a player at QB. I can easily see them dropping two or three in a row early and that ***** Newton pouting through the rest of the season.
He can now.

AllSaints 09-05-2016 06:03 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 716565)
Bucs? Uhh no! Is this a serious comment? Do you actually think they are significantly better than we are? Why?

Redskins, they are not significantly better than we are. Probably equal to us I'll admit but no, they are not significantly better than we are.

Packers? Maybe. Their offense and defense were just mediocre last year. I don't think they made any significant changes either. We improved quite a bit more on defense than they did. Might be your only valid point, but I wouldn't say they're much better than we are.

Vikings, they just lost their 2nd best player on offense for the year. Bradford is no Teddy Bridgewater. Shaun Hill will be taking snaps by week 8.

Just my opinion but I think your wrong on all 4 points.
Vikings have a very good defense that can carry them into the postseason... Packers have Aaron Rodgers need I say more... Redskins have Cousins who IMO is a franchise QB and redskins Defense is very good.... Bucs defense is very good and another year with Winston they will improve ... Not saying these teams are significantly better than we are ... But they are better... We are a 7-9 football team... Changes on defense we made yeah that's great but our Guards are trash we can't win football games when Brees is running for his life ...

AsylumGuido 09-05-2016 06:08 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 716589)
Vikings have a very good defense that can carry them into the postseason... Packers have Aaron Rodgers need I say more... Redskins have Cousins who IMO is a franchise QB and redskins Defense is very good.... Bucs defense is very good and another year with Winston they will improve ... Not saying these teams are significantly better than we are ... But they are better... We are a 7-9 football team... Changes on defense we made yeah that's great but our Guards are trash we can't win football games when Brees is running for his life ...
We WERE a 7-9 football team with back to back historically bad defenses. Our guards are no worse than they were last year when we finished 7-9. Our WR's are better with the addition of Thomas and another year of development of Cooks and Snead. Our RB's are solid and better with Ingram and Spiller both coming in healthy.

AllSaints 09-05-2016 07:38 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 716592)
We WERE a 7-9 football team with back to back historically bad defenses. Our guards are no worse than they were last year when we finished 7-9. Our WR's are better with the addition of Thomas and another year of development of Cooks and Snead. Our RB's are solid and better with Ingram and Spiller both coming in healthy.
True... But I'm coming off preseason... I saw improvement from the defense but still really young... Our guards are no worse but not any better what good is having heathy running backs when you can't make holes... What good is having a new WR when you barely have time to take 3 steps back and throw the ball... Brees needs time to step up in the pocket didn't have it last year... Won't have it this year... 7-9 football team ... Oline is everything and we failed to upgrade that...

I'm going to be cheering for this team to win every game like I always have... That will never change ... But the place we needed improvement oline didn't happen so I see another 7-9 aka mediocre season...

Mr.Riaton 09-05-2016 09:42 PM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 716355)
GB, Dallas, Washington, Minnesota

Possible, don't know yet, Eagles and Bears

Other possibilities include:

Rams, Atlanta, and the Bucs
Agree with you on the Rams

hagan714 09-06-2016 05:21 AM
Re: Playoff contenders
 
record is 0-0. We are tied for the best record in the NFL


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