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nola_swammi 09-09-2016 11:55 PM

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Siding with Kaepernick, 49ers pledge $1 million to fight racial injustice | The Sacramento Bee


That commitment follows Kaepernick’s vow to donate the first $1 million of his 2016 salary, as well as all the money he earns from jersey sales this season, toward similar groups. Kaepernick’s jersey has become the NFL’s most popular after he took a public stance – punctuated by not standing during the national anthem – regarding what he calls oppression of people of color in this country.

Read more here: Siding with Kaepernick, 49ers pledge $1 million to fight racial injustice | The Sacramento Bee

frydaddy 09-10-2016 12:07 AM

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Yippee, the broken record showed up to the party. Wondered how long it would be before you chimed in with your nonsense.

vpheughan 09-10-2016 07:41 AM

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AssylumGuido, I'm not even going as high as NFL Champion. It's the "little" things: Score a touchdown and break into an interpretive dance on the history of "Interpretive Dance". I'm waiting for a wide receiver to score and then break out a 3 act play on the history of his career!

Danno, I hear you! I was 15 when the Saints Training Facility opened two blocks from my house. Back in the day I could hear Bill Kilmer shouting out signals!

skymike 09-10-2016 10:45 AM

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Lets do some simple math here, Exiled.

If you're against America.
That makes you "Anti-" American.
See? Easy.
I dont like the current government, either. Maybe these guys should vote
Republican, if they want change, seeing as we've been under a Dem president for 8 years. Most every American city has been under Dem. control for 40 years.
I love my country. not wild about the incumbents. Doesn't mean Im going to disrespect the Country, and the people who defend it.

The fact that I even have to use the words republican & democrat in a football forum proves that these WHINING players are hurting the NFL's product. Therefore, said business has a right to require them to stand respectfully. The Govt. cant require it. A business can. My business does.

F*** people who dont like America. They need to leave.

See yall in the Terrace tomorrow.
Love and Patriotism,
How bout some Guns & Jesus with that too?
America!

RaginCajun83 09-10-2016 10:48 AM

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You can tell things are screwed up when you got SkyMike mixing politics and football

skymike 09-10-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 717863)
You can tell things are screwed up when you got SkyMike mixing politics and football

Exactly.... People, like you, who know me personally, know that mix makes me want to throw up.

Its really what pisses me off about these whining players. They bring politics into our national pastime, which normally would unite us.
Once you do something that makes Bob Costas put on his Smart Glasses, and start preaching to us, you've screwed our Game.
If you want to make millions of $$$, just play ball,, and STFU. If you want to do all that social justice crap, join the peace corps.

Boycott NFL Merchandise.
That will hit em.

burningmetal 09-10-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717812)
I realize that I've become that old guy now.

I just can't stand pro athletes today. I wonder if its just my age or are there actually younger folks (30's and under) that find it offensive or repulsive as well.

I also wonder if the same folks that are OK with athletes disrespecting the flag would also be OK with some racist moron exercising his rights to hate Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews etc...

It's a F'ed up world we're living in now. I just pray we all eventually come together.

I'm 30, and I feel at least 20 years older next to people just a few years younger than me, let alone alone the one's who are at least 10 years younger.

I instantly feel a lack of genuineness when I'm around them. They walk around with these crap eating grins plastered on their faces, they copy everything everyone does, and they love to talk about mindless things. I try to say something thoughtful and they look at me like I'm an old grandpa telling war stories. But if I make a fart joke, then I'm cool. There are very few people younger than me who I genuinely respect.

These athletes are just beacons of what young people are turning into.

The Dude 09-10-2016 01:07 PM

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First of all I would bet money that what Kaperdick did wasn't to make a statement as much as it was to garner attention. That being said him kneeling doesn't bother me. It's his right and as far as I know it's not an action that is not allowed in the business he is in.

Now about all the police officer shootings. I'm tired of the media trying to milk this race thing for all its worth. Thousands of good cops get blamed for the actions of just a few bad apples. And guess what, most not all I have read about have been justified. They all have one thing in common. The person shot by the officer was resisting or inciting.

I'm so sick of hearing how society keeps black people down. You really want to tell me a society that has affirmative action, free college education, a welfare system, exclusively black organizations and minority consideration when it comes to bank loans is a society that keeps black people down?? Seems to me that society has bent over backwards to help them achieve. If society is keeping them down its because it gives too much to one race. When you give too much you take away a people's drive and determination to succeed on their own.

Saintaintso 09-10-2016 09:44 PM

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Wow. There are a lot of ummm ... " Big Bad Patriots " here.

First I'd like to point out that Kaepernick is protesting the national anthem , not the flag. The difference couldn't be bigger.

Francis Scott Key wrote the song when captured by the British , he then proceeded to write a song about freedom while also condemning slaves in the third verse that's often not sung. What a hypocrite.

You wouldn't ask a Jewish man to sing a song that has proud roots to Nazi Germany , but this is somehow cool ?

And if you're really tired of hearing about black America being oppressed , just imagine how tired they are of being oppressed.
The statistics in the judicial system confirm there is a racial bias in America. There are literally so many statistics that support this argument , I highly question the intelligence of anyone who opposeses these numbers. These are well documented facts.

Not to mention , The Reagan administration has recently come out and admitted the war on drugs was a deliberate attempt to target black males. Google it if you are skeptical.

And I'm more than positive that these NFL players have expirienced some form of oppression due to the color of their skin early in in their lives. Money changes things , but not everything.

Lastly , quit telling people who have opinions that differ from your own to " Get out of your county ". The first amendment was put in place to encourage diplomacy and spur Intelligent diolgue so we can become " a more perfect union ".

Some of you " Proud American's " couldn't be more anti American in light of whats actually in the constitution.

I love America , We have some problems , they won't go away denying they exist.

skymike 09-11-2016 08:19 AM

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...The Reagan administration has recently come out and admitted the war on drugs was a deliberate attempt to target black males.

:rolleyes: no need to even debate here.
credibility.
(flushing sound.)
"umm" (why do people type"umm?" )

WHODAT! and

AMERICA, bit(h3s!

Gone to tha Dome!

Danno 09-11-2016 10:06 AM

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And if you're really tired of hearing about black America being oppressed , just imagine how tired they are of being oppressed.

What exactly is America doing to oppress blacks? I'm curious.

Saintaintso 09-11-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717954)
What exactly is America doing to oppress blacks? I'm curious.

I just stated there are dozens of sources with confirmed statistics. If you want to argue with numbers , that's on you. If that's the best comeback you've got , you already lost the argument.

This country was built on the backs of slaves that never profited a dime. If Kap doesn't want to stand for a song that glorifies the oppression of his ancestors then I stand behind him for it. You hating him for it makes you the furthest thing from a true American.

Land of the free though right ?

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2016 10:27 AM

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Land of the "free"

Danno 09-11-2016 10:36 AM

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I just stated there are dozens of sources with confirmed statistics. If you want to argue with numbers , that's on you. If that's the best comeback you've got , you already lost the argument.

This country was built on the backs of slaves that never profited a dime. If Kap doesn't want to stand for a song that glorifies the oppression of his ancestors then I stand behind him for it. You hating him for it makes you the furthest thing from a true American.

Land of the free though right ?

You posted innuendos, not facts.

Are blacks not free now? This Great Nation he's protesting is the one that freed them. Is he really too stupid to know that?

skymike 09-12-2016 05:54 AM

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Land of the free though right ?

Run, before we put up a wall.

I am proud to report this morning that ALL of our Saints are Real Americans.

See attachments. A couple of you might be offended by the 2nd one.

Im very concerned that I am offending some people.

AMERICA! B***ches!

Crusader 09-12-2016 06:03 AM

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WHO is that jack*ss in blue on the field kneeling????











JK I know its the cameraman ;-)

skymike 09-12-2016 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 718594)
WHO is that jack*ss in blue on the field kneeling????
JK I know its the cameraman ;-)

OUT! I'm kicking him out of America.

Marlboro Man 09-13-2016 09:31 PM

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Thank You! Reading these posts brings tears to my eyes. Hearing that others feel the same way as I do, makes me feel as though we still have a chance to save our country. If Hillory Clinton becomes president she will finish the job of killing America that Obama has done his best to accomplish. This is why I asked the question that I asked not 3 days ago, wanting to know if any Saints player or coach remained seated or took a knee during the national anthem, and was thrilled to hear that not 1 did. My protest is to not watch any game of any team that disrespects this country by not standing for our national anthem. I'm not saying that we're perfect, but I am saying that anyone fortunate enough to live here, is better off than if they lived in any other country in the world. I too say, we didn't ask you to come here, you asked us to come here and some didn't even ask and came here illegally. It's time for those freeloader America haters to get the eff out and as for the rest, I say this, this is America, this is how we do it, this is how we live. If you don't like it, or can't get with it, you are FREE TO LEAVE!

lee909 09-13-2016 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlboro Man (Post 719134)
but I am saying that anyone fortunate enough to live here, is better off than if they lived in any other country in the world.

Hold up old boy,i dont agree.

You should have stayed under the rule of your mother tongue

Marlboro Man 09-13-2016 10:19 PM

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I just stated there are dozens of sources with confirmed statistics. If you want to argue with numbers , that's on you. If that's the best comeback you've got , you already lost the argument.

This country was built on the backs of slaves that never profited a dime. If Kap doesn't want to stand for a song that glorifies the oppression of his ancestors then I stand behind him for it. You hating him for it makes you the furthest thing from a true American.

Land of the free though right ?

You know, I am sick and tired of hearing and putting up with liberal pos's like you. It's people like you and the rest of your Whiney crybabies that our country is so close to destruction. I'm also sick and tired of hearing about how black people were slaves boo effin hoo. You'd think that black people were the only people in the history of the world that were salves so you mister stastic should take your own damned advice and take a TRUE look at slavery. Every race on the face of the planet were slaves at some point in time. Some of us though got over it, let it go and put it behind us and moved on. Problem is, a lot of black folks just can't do that. Look at the movies they make, slavery, gangsta, slavery and on and on into adneauseum. These people in fact are NOT downtrodden and owe their problems to their own decisions and attitudes. It's not who you are or what color you are, it's how you present yourself. Like the black professor stated, "your attitude speaks so loud that I can't hear a word you are saying." This is so true it's rediculous. Blacks claim that whites don't get harassed by the police like they do. Well, for one thing, most whites don't resist arrest, they don't speak disrespectfully to an officer when they are being questioned about something, and that, believe it or not, goes a long way to not being arrested, or harassed. Whites that dress like thugs or gangsters do get arrested and harassed just like blacks that do the same things. I don't know a white guy that has any preconceived bad attitude towards a black person, but if you approach that same guy with a thug attitude the situation will deteriorate very quickly. I met a guy just the other day. We met at a barber shop. This kid drives OTR trucks. It's tuff, long hours, and long times away from home and family. He has 4 kids and a wife to support. Do you want to know what his plan is? He wants to drive this truck so that he can make enough money to buy 3 more trucks and start his own trucking company. That, folks, is the American Dream. Do you think that this is only avaliable to him because he's white? If you do, then you, like so many mislead Americans are WRONG! This kid, with this large family, is in fact, a black man. He is well spoken, he is not dressed in any fancy clothes, just clean blue jeans and a t-shirt. The point is, that the American Dream is alive and well and available to anyone who wants it. Problem is, there are too many lazy slackers that want to do and deal drugs and be gangsters. They want to be criminals. They don't want to work for a better way of life, they want to take what other people have worked for and by force and violence if that's what it takes. Folks, there have been people like this since the beginning of time, and there will be until the end of time. You make your own problems and you make your own solutions. The black people that have let go of the past and taken the initiave to acquire the life they want have all succeeded. All the rest are just lies and deceit engineered to elicit sympathy to a cause that is a lie. Sorry so long, needed to be said.

lee909 09-13-2016 10:28 PM

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Something i dint think is ever considered is how young the Uas is. Its rise to power as a nation happened incredible quickly. From the outside looking in there does seem to be major issues at certain levels that wont be solved in any short space of time. And while it is in living memory that blacks couldn't vote 50 years ago i think resentment on both sides will live on. All you can do is keep taking small steps in the right direction. I obviously say this as somebody with no stake in either side and as somebody eith no links to the country

WillMacKenzie 09-13-2016 11:11 PM

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It seems that regardless of what civilization we're in, at some point, the interests of a Government or ruling body and its citizens go in opposite directions.

At that point, Government's main purpose is to ensure it survives and perpetuate itself. (Doesn't matter, right, or left, they want to perpetuate themselves) Why do you think the traditional GOP was having a meltdown that Trump, an outsider was winning the nomination? He's a disruption. Same when the Democratic convention emails were released about trying to smear Bernie Sanders. The more time we spend arguing with each other, the less time we spend scrutinizing our elected officials. Those with power don't really care one way or another if we argue and throw rocks at each other, as long as we *feel* like we can vote and real issues addressed. They'll swoop in from on high and big daddy government is going to fix it all. How long have we heard the same tired line, "This is the most important election of our lifetime." Yet nothing changes, that was 50 lifetimes ago for crying out loud. Besides a couple of cosmetic political issues, the real issues are kicked further down the road because of their catastrophic threat to disrupt the whole system. As a politician, the more watered down and murky, the better. This insures you don't isolate any particular voting population, which is perfect if you hope to win an election.

Eventually the issues that keep getting kicked further down to future generations will be a cancer too far along to treat. It will result in something drastic. But again, diversion is just one effective tactic. Fears of all various kinds are another, from plagues, to threats of terror, to natural disasters, and to financial crisis.

If we really want to protest something, it should be this tired propaganda machine that has its fingers in everything we do. I can't piss in my own back yard without a permit these days.


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