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spkb25 09-10-2016 02:09 PM

Saints picked to go 4-12
 
Earlier this week I predicted the New Orleans Saints to finish 7-9 for the third straight year as I mocked their schedule week-by-week. The NFL Nation reporters for New Orleans’ opponents weren’t quite as generous, though.

View from the other sidelines: New Orleans Saints picked to go 4-12 - New Orleans Saints Blog- ESPN

Danno 09-10-2016 02:26 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
Makes sense. They don't know anyone on our team. We have a ton of young talent that no one knows about.

They probably still think we have the same players that finished with the worst defense in NFL history a couple of years ago. We didn't add any splash players in free agency and our #1 draft pick is out for the 1st 8 weeks.

It does kinda suprise me that they didn't really do their homework.
We're as good or better than everyone on our schedule except Zona, KC, Carolina (debatable), Seattle and Denver.

On paper I think we're at worst 8-8, at best 11-5.

What they aren't looking at...
Byrd looks healthy
Spiller looks healthy
Our D-line is much improved
Our pass rush is improved
Our LB's may be the most improved unit on the team
Our CB's, despite all the injuries look way better than last years group.
Our RB's look fantastic
Our WR's look great top to bottom
Our TE's are solid
Our O-line looks no worse than last year
Great punter.

spkb25 09-10-2016 02:33 PM

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I don't know if any of this is right or makes sense, but I know that it is no more or less relevant than the article about how our oline was good and potentially great

dizzle88 09-10-2016 02:33 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
NFL Network cronies were discussing the other day and said we don't have a good roster.

Saying the Raiders have a great roster but failing to mention anyone outside of Derek Carr and Kalil Mack.

spkb25 09-10-2016 02:38 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717872)
Makes sense. They don't know anyone on our team. We have a ton of young talent that no one knows about.

They probably still think we have the same players that finished with the worst defense in NFL history a couple of years ago. We didn't add any splash players in free agency and our #1 draft pick is out for the 1st 8 weeks.

It does kinda suprise me that they didn't really do their homework.
We're as good or better than everyone on our schedule except Zona, KC, Carolina (debatable), Seattle and Denver.

On paper I think we're at worst 8-8, at best 11-5.

What they aren't looking at...
Byrd looks healthy
Spiller looks healthy
Our D-line is much improved
Our pass rush is improved
Our LB's may be the most improved unit on the team
Our CB's, despite all the injuries look way better than last years group.
Our RB's look fantastic
Our WR's look great top to bottom
Our TE's are solid
Our O-line looks no worse than last year
Great punter.

A lot hinges on our oline. If Jahri can be decent and Peat too then we might be okay nd be in the mix for a playoff spot. If not we could be 5-11 to 7-9. Scary thing to me is Armistead is still not healthy.. that's a problem

burningmetal 09-10-2016 02:39 PM

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They said the Raiders have a great roster? Wow. They have three noteworthy players, and a few so-so guys. But because they are perceived to be getting better they are suddenly a great roster.

dizzle88 09-10-2016 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 717876)
They said the Raiders have a great roster? Wow. They have three noteworthy players, and a few so-so guys. But because they are perceived to be getting better they are suddenly a great roster.

Exactly, they were acting like the Raiders were the defending super bowl champs and we were the 2008 lions, ridiculous.

darksoul35 09-10-2016 02:57 PM

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I think we make a push for a wildcard birth at 9-7 . a few brakes and I wouldn't be surprised at 10-6.

Danno 09-10-2016 03:03 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
The Raiders lost 6 of their last 9 last year after starting off 4-3.

Brees>Carr
Cooks & Snead>Cooper & Crabtree
Fleener>Smith

They do have some talent, but they ain't exactly the Denver Broncos.

spkb25 09-10-2016 03:11 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717879)
The Raiders lost 6 of their last 9 last year after starting off 4-3.

Brees>Carr
Cooks & Snead>Cooper & Crabtree
Fleener>Smith

They do have some talent, but they ain't exactly the Denver Broncos.

Maybe but I hear the Raiders have the best oline in football

K Major 09-10-2016 03:12 PM

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4 wins ? I'll take the OVER on that everyday of the week.This team has way too much talent. Shut up the naysayers by winning on tomorrow.

Danno 09-10-2016 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 717880)
Maybe but I hear the Raiders have the best oline in football

True, PFF has them ranked #2, but has us ranked #8.

spkb25 09-10-2016 03:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717886)
True, PFF has them ranked #2, but has us ranked #8.

really? 8th seems ambitious. I just hope Jahri can get it done if so, and peat rocks, we could have pretty good line. I am worried about Armistead, he hasn't been healthy for awhile. That would be devastating.

hagan714 09-10-2016 03:51 PM

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If we go into Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 18, at Arizona Cardinals at 3-11?

SP better be getting every player off the bench, into the game and give them a fair job interview for 2017.

Tank the season.
Dump the dead wood.
Enjoy that big cap space.
Get their top 3 pick and not stayed married to it.

spkb25 09-10-2016 03:59 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 717888)
If we go into Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 18, at Arizona Cardinals at 3-11?

SP better be getting every player off the bench, into the game and give them a fair job interview for 2017.

Tank the season.
Dump the dead wood.
Enjoy that big cap space.
Get their top 3 pick and not stayed married to it.

if the oline is better than preseason i cant see us winning only 4 games...no way.

hitta 09-10-2016 04:35 PM

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There are few times where I've thought the "experts" were more wrong than this time. I'm going to flat out say, don't underestimate our team. We're going to compete for the division. This kind of feels like one of SP's early years when everyone doubted us.

WHODATINCA 09-10-2016 05:12 PM

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Woe is us. We are starting the season debating how bad we might be....sad. :-(

halloween 65 09-10-2016 05:23 PM

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Sorry guys I'm sticking with 5-11.

halloween 65 09-10-2016 05:28 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 717888)
If we go into Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 18, at Arizona Cardinals at 3-11?

SP better be getting every player off the bench, into the game and give them a fair job interview for 2017.

Tank the season.
Dump the dead wood.
Enjoy that big cap space.
Get their top 3 pick and not stayed married to it.

Payton want do it. If we win and we are 5-11 he'll jump for joy like we just won the Superbowl. He finishes that low he'll be fired unless he fires everyone else on both coaching staffs and I don't see him doing that either.

spkb25 09-10-2016 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 717895)
Sorry guys I'm sticking with 5-11.

if the oline is not better im at 5-11 to 7-9. If it is better I am 8-8 to 10-6

rezburna 09-10-2016 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717879)
The Raiders lost 6 of their last 9 last year after starting off 4-3.

Brees>Carr
Cooks & Snead>Cooper & Crabtree
Fleener>Smith

They do have some talent, but they ain't exactly the Denver Broncos.

I think Cooper Crabtree is the better duo. We're deeper though.

NOLA54 09-10-2016 06:57 PM

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Consider the source.

AsylumGuido 09-10-2016 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 717896)
Payton want do it. If we win and we are 5-11 he'll jump for joy like we just won the Superbowl. He finishes that low he'll be fired unless he fires everyone else on both coaching staffs and I don't see him doing that either.

And then Goodell will take our team away for good and the good witch will die.

Sad.

AsylumGuido 09-10-2016 07:43 PM

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I say we go 16-0 in the regular season, unless we lose a game and then I say we go 15-1 in the regular season, unless we lose two games and then I say we go 14-2 in the regular season, ...

:cheering:

saintshrimp 09-10-2016 09:03 PM

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I have made my feelings known about the team this year i think i dont want to beat a dead horse.

5-11 or 6-10.

WillSaints81 09-10-2016 09:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 717896)
Payton want do it. If we win and we are 5-11 he'll jump for joy like we just won the Superbowl. He finishes that low he'll be fired unless he fires everyone else on both coaching staffs and I don't see him doing that either.

Who's going to fire him?

Cruize 09-11-2016 11:29 AM

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4 losses and 12 wins. Sounds about right.

halloween 65 09-11-2016 11:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 717905)
And then Goodell will take our team away for good and the good witch will die.

Sad.

Saints want go anywhere, coaches come and go. It would take New Orleans to flood again to even consider moving the Saints.

lee909 09-11-2016 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 717901)
I think Cooper Crabtree is the better duo. We're deeper though.

Your both forgetting

Michael Thomas > Cooper and Crabtree

halloween 65 09-11-2016 11:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 717909)
Who's going to fire him?

Benson I would imagine.

AsylumGuido 09-11-2016 11:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 717992)
Saints want go anywhere, coaches come and go. It would take New Orleans to flood again to even consider moving the Saints.

That was sarcasm, halloween. ;)

WhoDat!656 09-11-2016 11:54 AM

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Saints will win the division and at least one playoff game.

Rugby Saint II 09-11-2016 04:56 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
Well, we're starting at 0-1. That's a good start for the prognosticators.

CheramieIII 09-11-2016 06:20 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
I'm sticking with my prediction of 9-7 10-6 if we win our last game.

pherein 09-11-2016 06:33 PM

Re: Saints picked to go 4-12
 
Think the 4-12 thing is completely Fn stupid and the guy that said it should be working at a pet store. The offense is still dangerous and can put up big points. We are a 7-9 team at worse.
Im not sure what we will do to be honest. Today was a win, and we let it go. So there is a wanting to win problem.

Ashley 09-11-2016 07:05 PM

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After losing Delvin, this seems legit

WillSaints81 12-25-2016 01:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 717999)
Saints will win the division and at least one playoff game.

Yup

RockyMountainSaint 12-25-2016 01:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 731312)
Yup

Feel better about yourself now?

SmashMouth 12-25-2016 08:44 AM

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Holy BATMAN old thread. Always fun to look back.

Despite the record, we are improved.


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