Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season
 

I don't like disagreeing with a cornerstone of the Saints Mt. Rushmore, but IMO, if injuries don't become an issue, the defense will be substantially improved.

Not saying they will be the second coming of the Bears 46 defense, but this defense will win games for us.

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What could go wrong... We have so many 1st and 2nd year guys on defense that it may just be too much youth and not enough experience

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He said we didn't address pass rush, CBs and Safety. I disagree

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Time will tell
I think it looks a bit better on paper and there looks more of a pass rush on the interior but it still looks short on rotation.

Some games the secondary will look good others it wont. Its still very young and if the front 7 dont get pressure then i can see Williams ad whoever is the 3rd CB getting abused.

It looks better but i persoanlly think its a year of being good

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He knows his defense.

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This isn't his defense.

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I think the disconnect here is that we were one of the worst defenses in the NFL for 2 years straight and still finished with 7 wins because of an elite offense. Well the offense looks as good or better than it was the last 2 years and the defense has added much more talent both in players and coaching so logic says (on paper) we should easily improve on those 7 wins.

The schedule (on paper) does look a bit tougher, so I wouldn't be shocked to see a disappointing 8-8 season, but I think a 10 win season is more likely.

QB-same
RB's - Better
WR's Better
TE's - Same (maybe a slight drop since Watson played lights out in 2015)
O-line - Same
DT's - Better
DE's - Better
LB's - Much better
CB's - Better (although injuries are a major concern)
SS - Better
FS - Better

How can anyone say we didn't improve as a team?

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QB-same
RB's - Better
WR's Better
TE's - Same (maybe a slight drop since Watson played lights out in 2015)
O-line - Same
DT's - Better
DE's - Better
LB's - Much better <----------------------------------Right here.
CB's - Better (although injuries are a major concern)
SS - Better
FS - Better

Added emphasis. I think that's an area that's going to help tremendously that nobody's really talking about.

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Love Rickey Jackson, disappointed in the timeliness of his criticism...

That said, we had one of the worst defenses ever (at that time) and were top 7 the next season under, yep, Rob Ryan...

I wasn't happy that we just threw the 3-4 movement and some of it's players out with the washwater, but, Dennis Allen, and the fruits will bear, has taken charge and put a stamp on this defense...

The coaching and the leadership is much improved - One Singular Defensive Coach/Leader, addition of Aaron Glenn and attention of Sean Payton will have a positive impact on this team...

So let's wait till Week 4 to see if the new scheme and coaching has this defense in the right direction...

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I wish it were. They were great!!

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Our front 7 has been easily upgraded

They may not be better straight away, but I believe the young guys like PJ Williams will grow into the position.

I just hope that a game plan has been put in place where PJ isn't left alone on an island, they will challenge him and it would help him immensely to have safety help over the top just until he gets comfortable.

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Here's the thing about the preseason games vs today...

The Saints coaches will be game planning for the Raiders vs Preseason Opponents where players were put in situations to see how they'll respond...

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Then explain the dominance in 2009?

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I guess Rickey Jackson does know what he is talking about after all.

Defense is still a problem in New Orleans.

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The refs stole this game, but we do need some kind of pass rush

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A defensive mentallity left New Orleans a long time ago and hasn't returned since. A great D feeds off of each other like clockwork, I know you know how it goes but people see a high powered O scoring a bunch of points which is a good thing but it's really just half of the equation without the other half doing their job it's all in vein. I blame alot of this on Payton thinking all he needs is a few stops in a game to win. I think he probably thinks his O is superior to every D they face and if this is the case it's certainly not shown over alot of seasons. I truely think if we could have fielded a true top 15 D since he's been here people would be talking dynasty and a few more banners would be hanging in the dome.

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I think Payton has been contracting out the defense to people who have
spent most of their days scheming and implementing defenses.
He's had some trouble finding a contractor who is as good as he is.
The other problem is Payton's offense has 75% of the budget(+or- 2-3%).
If we ever get back to middle of the pack on defense, we will be back in the mix.
The 60/40 pass/rush mix doesn't help either.
Defense can't even hydrate before being back on the field again.
The talk about balance on offense just has not materialized.
And I've been waiting a longggggggg time.

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Thay are all ready better then last year.

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What makes you believe that?

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We had a oline, no excuse for not running the ball. But we don't let Ingram carry this team late. I will say that ever since PT left SP just does not rely on one back enough.

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Payton doesn't have a run mentality...
So his offensive line has no run mentality.
They don't even show up with a mind to control or push the line of scrimmage.
They show up on their heels ready to pass block.
The problem with that is you can't just flip the switch on 3rd-and-1 (3rd-and-goal)
and do something that you never intended to do.
We see it week after week.
Teams know Brees is going to throw 40 times.
They worry about the run as an after thought, and it's still not a problem.

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Vic Fangio took the Dome Patrol era out the door never to return.
That's probably the Defense Rickey Jackson just might be reflecting on.

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Defense loses the first game.

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I am sorry but I don't have much criticism for the offense yesterday. We gained over 500 yards, brees looked great throwing, people were open. If you're going to game plan then you gama plan around what you see as the weakest link of the other team. Apparently we felt it was their pass d, and we were right. We produced more than 400 yards through the air, and before you come back with "yeah but then why did we lose" that is easy, the other team gained just under 500 yards and scored 35 points.

The offense and play calling was of no issue.

These are NFL players and lineman, they can switch from running tpo pass blocking on a dime, and if they can't then they don't deserve to be here. BTW- the Raiders only ran it 4 more times then we did yesterday.

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Rickey may be onto something here. :wink:

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I love Rickey but just because he played Linebacker for us doesn't make him right.

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nevermind

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The 75 yarder was kind of a fluke.
That would put them back around 90 yards, which is acceptable to me.
No pass rush killed our secondary.
You can't even let an NFL backup dance for 7 seconds and hope to stop him.

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Carr did have an enormous amount of time to survey the field didn't he? Hoping Dennis Allen can figure this out. We have some pieces to compete.

It doesn't get any easier in week #2.

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I know one thing; doesn't matter who is the coordinator we never have any pass rush; the one constant is Bill Johnson(Defensive Line coach). Maybe it's time we lose the constant? And Vitt can accompany him out

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Perhaps, but can we name 1 single DL or LB that actually got better when they left Vitt/Johnson and went elsewhere? No, no one can.

I don't think the problem is Vitt/Johnson. I think its that we drafted crappy players on defense.

And Vitt doesn't coach LB's anymore, he's the assistant HC.

But I wouldn't mind changing Bill Johnson out. Obviously what we have isn't working.

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Rob Ninkovich; With the team not once but twice and they failed to utilize his talent properly

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Tom Johnson.

He's been really good for the Vikes.

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Both of those players were the same player here. Ninkovich kept getting injured. The didn't get better, they stayed healthy

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Hicks, he's playing pretty well in Chi- Town now.