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WhoDat!656 09-14-2016 08:07 PM

Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
“It is a week to week thing,” Payton said. “Pete and I communicate each week on how we want this game to unfold. . . . I thought it went very well [Sunday]. I will still be very much involved in a handful of those calls and so it is an operation for us, this is year 10 or 11 now that we will just handle week to week. It was not a big earth shattering announcement or a big move, it was really, functionally I can get Pete a play and he can get it into Drew just as quickly as I can get it into Drew directly. And if I’m managing the game, or paying attention to what just happen on a punt return, we are far enough along in this process where it is easy for us.”

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lee909 09-14-2016 08:15 PM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
I said last week i think Carmichael made a statement that he should be taking over the role on gameday. That offense looked explosive last week and its not because its is loaded with weapons anymore than the last few years either. There has always been talent on that side of the ball.

RailBoss 09-14-2016 10:48 PM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
I'm thinking it allows more time for SP to get his head into the D.

jeanpierre 09-14-2016 11:36 PM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 719422)
I'm thinking it allows more time for SP to get his head into the D.

Granted Payton's the head coach, but Dennis Allen is the one who was to be righting the ship...

It's still early, but the results are depressingly similar...

lee909 09-14-2016 11:39 PM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
I feel sorry for Allen here. He very little to work with at cornerback with Breaux going down.

|Mitch| 09-14-2016 11:48 PM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 719424)
It's still early, but the results are depressingly similar...

I disagree; Allen has the defense going in the right direction... If it weren't for all the damn injuries... :doh:

Seer1 09-15-2016 07:19 AM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 719422)
I'm thinking it allows more time for SP to get his head into the D.

Is that what happened in the second half?

Seer1 09-15-2016 07:20 AM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 719425)
I feel sorry for Allen here. He very little to work with at cornerback with Breaux going down.

Aren't there still ten starters hanging around somewhere?

neugey 09-15-2016 07:58 AM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
IMHO Payton just needs to chew the Fruit, command his team, yap at the refs and manage the clock/timeouts. Let the assistants do their thing.

K Major 09-15-2016 08:26 AM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 719424)
Granted Payton's the head coach, but Dennis Allen is the one who was to be righting the ship...

It's still early, but the results are depressingly similar...

Until this team is able to generate consistent pressure on the QB, expect to see 34-31 shootouts.

Euphoria 09-15-2016 08:47 AM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
There is a huge difference between play calling between the two.

Carm - PASS HAPPY attacking shoot outs.

Sean tries more balanced... using the run game to set some pass plays up.

To me it really doesn't matter if you score 100 points and give up 101 we still lose. So no big deal. until you FIX THE F'in D already.

saintshrimp 09-15-2016 09:30 AM

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i found it refreshing not to see as many screen passes now if the would run the ball 25 -30 times a game at stick to it id be thrilled to death

The Dude 09-15-2016 09:32 AM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 719422)
I'm thinking it allows more time for SP to get his head into the D.

Because he knows defenses so well..

Crusader 09-15-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 719461)
Because he knows defenses so well..

I would say that he is probably not the Savant he is on offense but I'd bet he is pretty darn good on defence too. You don't get that good on offense without a thorough understanding of how a defence works.

lee909 09-15-2016 10:44 AM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 719443)
Aren't there still ten starters hanging around somewhere?

Of course there is but he will have had little input on his players. If you were a DC would you have been happy with three if your 4 CB never having played a fown of pro football(with 2 being UDFA)

He is going to be judged on playing 6 weeks with little to nothing at CB

Rugby Saint II 09-16-2016 12:23 PM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 719463)
I would say that he is probably not the Savant he is on offense but I'd bet he is pretty darn good on defence too. You don't get that good on offense without a thorough understanding of how a defence works.

I seem to remember way back when the Saints interviewed an offensive coordinator who knew defense so well that the Saints gave him the DC position.
As I recall that ended poorly.

RaginCajun83 09-16-2016 12:33 PM

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PC did wonders in 2011, lets see if he can recapture that magic

saintshrimp 09-16-2016 03:22 PM

Re: Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for*Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 719443)
Aren't there still ten starters hanging around somewhere?

There is 10 other guys I don't know if you can call them starters but its what we have


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