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xan 09-15-2016 07:30 AM

Not going to be a pretty game vs. GI-aints
 
77 hours out from kickoff, the weather forecast is for severe thunderstorms associated with the remnants of the tropical storm that is currently pounding Cam Newton's Panties. 80% chance of rain, high winds.

What is the gameplan? How do we think it will affect the defense? Do we have a running game? Do we have a defensive line?

neugey 09-15-2016 07:54 AM

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Weather reports SMH. It will probably be 65 and sunny.

SmashMouth 09-15-2016 08:06 AM

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No worries... we got Spiller..... oh wait!

ChrisXVI 09-15-2016 08:14 AM

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Not gonna be pretty fellas. Their defense has improved with Snacks and Hankins making a tough duo to run on so don't expect much from Ingram. Our defense has possibly gotten worse since we played them last year thanks to the Breaux injury. Gonna take another Herculean effort from Drew.

CheramieIII 09-15-2016 09:26 AM

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I think the stiffer the wind the more chance we have and if it's raining will make the footing a little more difficult. Remember if not for one play our defense would've held Oakland to 92 yards rushing and we let Oakland score 25 points in 18 minutes after Breaux was a no geaux.

lee909 09-15-2016 10:41 AM

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Heavy rain
Run Ingram and Hightower into the ground time snd time again. Kill the clock and keep the defense off the field

K Major 09-15-2016 12:32 PM

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FWIW - Stats of Brees/Payton vs Giants:

2015 - 52-49 Saints
2012 - 52-27 Giants (No Payton)
2011 - 49-24 Saints
2009 - 48-27 Saints
2006 - 30-7 Saints

Brees sure hasn't had a problem lighting up the G-Men over the years. I'm sure NY fans are praying for heavy rain ;) .

lee909 09-15-2016 12:41 PM

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I can see another really high scoring game.
My worry is not Brees putting up numbers but the numbers coming the other way and the potential for Brees to think/need to do too much. When he has been forced to be overly aggresive it can lead to turnovers. The good thing is now though he had receivers that will go and get the ball in Snead and Thomas.

Its simply going to boil down to the pressure that th dront 7 can get to not expose the front 7. If they can force Manning to just get rid he could easily put up 3 int's. Get enough pressure and we can win a shoot out. Dont and you are leaving inexpierenced backs exposed to Beckham/Cruz/Donell and Sterling

RaginCajun83 09-15-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 719502)
I can see another really high scoring game.
My worry is not Brees putting up numbers but the numbers coming the other way and the potential for Brees to think/need to do too much. When he has been forced to be overly aggresive it can lead to turnovers. The good thing is now though he had receivers that will go and get the ball in Snead and Thomas.

the weapons have changed but with the exception of 2009 and 2013, Brees has always had to carry this team on his shoulders due to a horrific defense

lee909 09-15-2016 01:00 PM

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I agree with that.
Im more talking on the game when its been bad and the offense has failed and he has had to be very aggresive and its cause him to make silly picks. Its not criticism of him him as he has had to try and make something happen. Its the type of QB he is,they will be games of T.O

Halo 09-15-2016 01:09 PM

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Saints vs. Giants last year - The BEST Arena Football game I ever saw!!!

saintfan 09-15-2016 01:20 PM

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Let it rain buckets. Our CBs need all the help they can get.


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voodooido 09-15-2016 02:25 PM

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I actually think this would be good for the Saints. Our offense would of done fine during Hurricane Katrina. Our defense is always a step behind so this may help them catch up. Eli is no where near as accurate as Brees.

K Major 09-15-2016 02:34 PM

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Sean Payton thinks Giants rookie WR Sterling Shepard is similar to Randall Cobb | NOLA.com

saintfan 09-15-2016 03:08 PM

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The Giants have the WRs to kill us. They will be a test for our Oline too. Our DBs better be saying their prayers.

K Major 09-15-2016 03:16 PM

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/IMG]
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 719509)
Let it rain buckets. Our CBs need all the help they can get.


https://media.giphy.com/media/Wbq1zL1XYO71m/giphy.gif
I'm kind of hoping for rain as well. If it does, give em a heavy dose of Ingram/Hightower.

We have the most prolific passing attack in the league, however we can't stop it x(.

Euphoria 09-15-2016 03:57 PM

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All I know is that what ever running backs I have that are playing vs. the Saints in fantasy... I AM STARTING.

K Major 09-15-2016 04:00 PM

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Saints LB Dannell Ellerbe (quad) observed on practice field Thursday | NOLA.com

Don't look for Mr. Ellerbe on Sunday.

dizzle88 09-15-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 719525)
All I know is that what ever running backs I have that are playing vs. the Saints in fantasy... I AM STARTING.

I'm putting money on any WR/QB combo that faces the saints, at least I can get something back for the defense playing like crap.

WhoDat!656 09-15-2016 07:24 PM

Re: Not going to be a pretty game vs. GI-aints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 719501)
FWIW - Stats of Brees/Payton vs Giants:

2015 - 52-49 Saints
2012 - 52-27 Giants (No Payton)
2011 - 49-24 Saints
2009 - 48-27 Saints
2006 - 30-7 Saints

Brees sure hasn't had a problem lighting up the G-Men over the years. I'm sure NY fans are praying for heavy rain ;) .

I believe the wins were at home and the loss was on the road; just sayin'.

jeanpierre 09-15-2016 07:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 719501)
FWIW - Stats of Brees/Payton vs Giants:

2015 - 52-49 Saints
2012 - 52-27 Giants (No Payton)
2011 - 49-24 Saints
2009 - 48-27 Saints
2006 - 30-7 Saints

Brees sure hasn't had a problem lighting up the G-Men over the years. I'm sure NY fans are praying for heavy rain ;) .

Great snapshot, Major...

And I'd point out after having played in muck that offense has the advantage...

Marlboro Man 09-15-2016 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 719450)
Not gonna be pretty fellas. Their defense has improved with Snacks and Hankins making a tough duo to run on so don't expect much from Ingram. Our defense has possibly gotten worse since we played them last year thanks to the Breaux injury. Gonna take another Herculean effort from Drew.

Sadly, I never do expect much from Ingram, nor do I usually get much from him either. I think this is Tim Hightower's time to shine. Sadly, coach Payton can't spell "Run The Ball". Hasn't been able to for what 12 years now? Oh, and honest to God, I just don't know what the heck we have to do to get somebody, anybody worth a damn on that D-Line. We've got a bunch of mediocre to underachievers all across that line and that includes Jourdan. I mean Fairley looks good but that's it friends and he can't do it all by himself. Dennis Allen who I don't think is anything but a DB coach is gonna need to be very and I mean VERY creative with some contingency blitz packages for this game. Who knows, maybe the whether just might help the Saints this week.

lee909 09-15-2016 09:47 PM

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Think you are being harsh on Ingram he has averaged 4.5 ypc the last three years


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