Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints

saintshrimp · 09-17-2016, 08:27 PM

i dont recall anyone saying anthing about next year or in the future we were talking about this year and the previous two before that is why this team has sufferd. it may get better here soon yes but loomis and company continue to waste money to epic proportion its unreal.i dont think they have learned anything from the problems they created in the past 3 years.why? because they continue to do the same stuff that got them in this predicament in the first place. Time will tell but the Spiller decison is just example of having my doubts they learned anything at all. next year it will more than likely be Byrd and ellerbee,laurennitis and possibly but unlikely Fleener

AsylumGuido · 09-17-2016, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

i dont recall anyone saying anthing about next year or in the future we were talking about this year and the previous two before that is why this team has sufferd. it may get better here soon yes but loomis and company continue to waste money to epic proportion its unreal.i dont think they have learned anything from the problems they created in the past 3 years.why? because they continue to do the same stuff that got them in this predicament in the first place. Time will tell but the Spiller decison is just example of having my doubts they learned anything at all. next year it will more than likely be Byrd and ellerbee,laurennitis and possibly but unlikely Fleener

spkb25 · 09-18-2016, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

i dont recall anyone saying anthing about next year or in the future we were talking about this year and the previous two before that is why this team has sufferd. it may get better here soon yes but loomis and company continue to waste money to epic proportion its unreal.i dont think they have learned anything from the problems they created in the past 3 years.why? because they continue to do the same stuff that got them in this predicament in the first place. Time will tell but the Spiller decison is just example of having my doubts they learned anything at all. next year it will more than likely be Byrd and ellerbee,laurennitis and possibly but unlikely Fleener

yep, great that next year the healing begins but that does nothing for this year

AsylumGuido · 09-18-2016, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

yep, great that next year the healing begins but that does nothing for this year

And we can't do anything about this year, either. The cards are dealt. Now we should simply sit back and pull for our Saints. I just happen to have a bit more faith than some around here.

spkb25 · 09-18-2016, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And we can't do anything about this year, either. The cards are dealt.

You're right that it can't be changed, but at what point do we say enough is enough and hope we are heard in the process. Maybe it has been and maybe that's what they're doing, righting the ship. I hope so. And I always pull for the Saints!

AsylumGuido · 09-18-2016, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

You're right that it can't be changed, but at what point do we say enough is enough and hope we are heard in the process. Maybe it has been and maybe that's what they're doing, righting the ship. I hope so. And I always pull for the Saints!

The whole cap issue came about from bad, or unlucky, personnel moves. Things even out over time. It was nothing we said. The ship just righted itself.

saintshrimp · 09-17-2016, 08:49 PM

we roll our eyes to you too

AsylumGuido · 09-17-2016, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

we roll our eyes to you too

Say hello to that mouse in your pocket.

burningmetal · 09-17-2016, 11:19 PM

Yeah, we know. They raise the cap every couple of years. And inflation keeps going up in all these contracts. All teams are under the same cap, which means wherever we rank in cap space now is what we'll rank next year. Drew's deal helped. But the cap raising doesn't mean a whole lot when you have to compete on the free agent market with teams who have more money than you.

We heard this same crap the last time they raised the cap. A lot of good that did. We're not in all out cap hell now that Drew and the Saints finally made a deal that creates some space. Good on them for that.

As far as dead money is concerned, I always say that if you need to release a player who is under performing, you can't worry about the dead money. You accept that you made a mistake and you cut your losses. But to say that dead money, in general, means nothing is inaccurate. It represents money wasted that could have been spent going forward on improving the team, that is instead floating around with players who aren't even on your team.

Nobody is perfect, and you won't always hit home runs when you sign people. That's understood. But when you lead the world in dead money it does reflect poorly on your personnel decisions.

The Galette case was different. But you can't make excuses for every one of these contracts. Unless you are the guy who wrote this article... Then you just slap a coat of sugar on it, and call it a day.

horsebot · 09-18-2016, 10:53 AM

How has cap hell gone, when next season we already have the highest amount of dead money?

This off season we haven't done anything different either, we have restructured a few contracts and signed players to big contracts that we can't afford or need (Fleener)

09-17-2016, 08:27 PM	#1
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints i dont recall anyone saying anthing about next year or in the future we were talking about this year and the previous two before that is why this team has sufferd. it may get better here soon yes but loomis and company continue to waste money to epic proportion its unreal.i dont think they have learned anything from the problems they created in the past 3 years.why? because they continue to do the same stuff that got them in this predicament in the first place. Time will tell but the Spiller decison is just example of having my doubts they learned anything at all. next year it will more than likely be Byrd and ellerbee,laurennitis and possibly but unlikely Fleener

09-17-2016, 08:46 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,797	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintshrimp i dont recall anyone saying anthing about next year or in the future we were talking about this year and the previous two before that is why this team has sufferd. it may get better here soon yes but loomis and company continue to waste money to epic proportion its unreal.i dont think they have learned anything from the problems they created in the past 3 years.why? because they continue to do the same stuff that got them in this predicament in the first place. Time will tell but the Spiller decison is just example of having my doubts they learned anything at all. next year it will more than likely be Byrd and ellerbee,laurennitis and possibly but unlikely Fleener

09-18-2016, 12:29 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintshrimp i dont recall anyone saying anthing about next year or in the future we were talking about this year and the previous two before that is why this team has sufferd. it may get better here soon yes but loomis and company continue to waste money to epic proportion its unreal.i dont think they have learned anything from the problems they created in the past 3 years.why? because they continue to do the same stuff that got them in this predicament in the first place. Time will tell but the Spiller decison is just example of having my doubts they learned anything at all. next year it will more than likely be Byrd and ellerbee,laurennitis and possibly but unlikely Fleener yep, great that next year the healing begins but that does nothing for this year

09-18-2016, 07:31 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,797	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by spkb25 yep, great that next year the healing begins but that does nothing for this year And we can't do anything about this year, either. The cards are dealt. Now we should simply sit back and pull for our Saints. I just happen to have a bit more faith than some around here.

09-18-2016, 07:57 AM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And we can't do anything about this year, either. The cards are dealt. You're right that it can't be changed, but at what point do we say enough is enough and hope we are heard in the process. Maybe it has been and maybe that's what they're doing, righting the ship. I hope so. And I always pull for the Saints!

09-18-2016, 08:06 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,797	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by spkb25 You're right that it can't be changed, but at what point do we say enough is enough and hope we are heard in the process. Maybe it has been and maybe that's what they're doing, righting the ship. I hope so. And I always pull for the Saints! The whole cap issue came about from bad, or unlucky, personnel moves. Things even out over time. It was nothing we said. The ship just righted itself.

09-17-2016, 08:49 PM	#7
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints we roll our eyes to you too

09-17-2016, 09:20 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,797	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintshrimp we roll our eyes to you too Say hello to that mouse in your pocket.

09-17-2016, 11:19 PM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints Yeah, we know. They raise the cap every couple of years. And inflation keeps going up in all these contracts. All teams are under the same cap, which means wherever we rank in cap space now is what we'll rank next year. Drew's deal helped. But the cap raising doesn't mean a whole lot when you have to compete on the free agent market with teams who have more money than you. We heard this same crap the last time they raised the cap. A lot of good that did. We're not in all out cap hell now that Drew and the Saints finally made a deal that creates some space. Good on them for that. As far as dead money is concerned, I always say that if you need to release a player who is under performing, you can't worry about the dead money. You accept that you made a mistake and you cut your losses. But to say that dead money, in general, means nothing is inaccurate. It represents money wasted that could have been spent going forward on improving the team, that is instead floating around with players who aren't even on your team. Nobody is perfect, and you won't always hit home runs when you sign people. That's understood. But when you lead the world in dead money it does reflect poorly on your personnel decisions. The Galette case was different. But you can't make excuses for every one of these contracts. Unless you are the guy who wrote this article... Then you just slap a coat of sugar on it, and call it a day.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-18-2016, 10:53 AM	#10
horsebot Rookie Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2	Re: Salary Cap ‘Hell’ has Come and Gone for the New Orleans Saints How has cap hell gone, when next season we already have the highest amount of dead money? This off season we haven't done anything different either, we have restructured a few contracts and signed players to big contracts that we can't afford or need (Fleener)
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