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CheramieIII 09-19-2016 04:45 PM

Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
We are 21st against the run and would be 4th against the run if we take away that 75 yard run by the Raiders.

We are 10th in total offense and will get better.

We wouldn't have lost either game without all of the injuries in our secondary. It changes everything in the game. Our defense has done a great job considering. When you look at the numbers it doesn't give you the entire picture. We've lost 2 games by a total of 4 points, 4 points, we're talking about 4 points.

2 pass interference calls on the Raiders last drive, secondary injuries and the FG miss killed us.

The field goal miss, secondary injuries and the fumble killed us.

Now we know what we have to do so let's get it done Payton. WE NEED VETS IN THE SECONDARY NOW! GET TO TRADIN!

Everyone hop back on the bandwagon and get this s**t started!

dizzle88 09-19-2016 05:04 PM

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Whilst you're correct, it's the same every year. We have made a habit of losing by close margins or with seconds to go.

Let's hope with players coming back we can make some kind of run.

neugey 09-19-2016 05:27 PM

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I don't blame the loss on Breaux, Swann or PJ being injured. Getting people back will not help us. Lighting a fire under our own ass and realizing that scoring 0 points off 3 Giants turnovers is unacceptable will.

On the positive side, our defensive line looked a lot better than last year, definitely did not get gashed between the tackles like last year.

The Dude 09-19-2016 05:43 PM

Re: Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 720422)
We are 21st against the run and would be 4th against the run if we take away that 75 yard run by the Raiders.

We are 10th in total offense and will get better.

We wouldn't have lost either game without all of the injuries in our secondary. It changes everything in the game. Our defense has done a great job considering. When you look at the numbers it doesn't give you the entire picture. We've lost 2 games by a total of 4 points, 4 points, we're talking about 4 points.

2 pass interference calls on the Raiders last drive, secondary injuries and the FG miss killed us.

The field goal miss, secondary injuries and the fumble killed us.

Now we know what we have to do so let's get it done Payton. WE NEED VETS IN THE SECONDARY NOW! GET TO TRADIN!

Everyone hop back on the bandwagon and get this s**t started!

If Fleener could catch a pass we would have won. The team does have more grit than I have seen in years. That's one thing the youth movement brought to the table. I think our year is next year. A year of experience is going to go a long way.

Beastmode 09-19-2016 06:22 PM

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My farts don't really smell that bad. I get that it's not great but it's butt air come on.

RockyMountainSaint 09-19-2016 06:26 PM

Re: Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
The above posts sum up my thinking and I'm OK with the direction of things compared to the last few seasons.
I'm a glass half full kind of person in general, but 0-2 really doesn't feel so bad when I consider the effort and promise of our young doodz.
SUNSHINE is still pumping in my veins.
A loss to the Hated Atlantiens would really suck though.
But, I'm confident that I will feel wonderful after we beat the brakes off of those fools next week!

RockyMountainSaint 09-19-2016 06:28 PM

Re: Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 720422)
We are 21st against the run and would be 4th against the run if we take away that 75 yard run by the Raiders.

I have been very pleased with our run D.

frydaddy 09-19-2016 07:18 PM

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Definitely room and reason for optimism. I'm still beating the drum for the defense. Most of them are greener than the turf they're playing on, but I believe they have some fight in them this year. If...and it's a big if...they can learn from their mistakes and grow, watch out.

jnormand 09-19-2016 07:23 PM

Re: Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 720422)
We are 21st against the run and would be 4th against the run if we take away that 75 yard run by the Raiders.

We are 10th in total offense and will get better.

We wouldn't have lost either game without all of the injuries in our secondary. It changes everything in the game. Our defense has done a great job considering. When you look at the numbers it doesn't give you the entire picture. We've lost 2 games by a total of 4 points, 4 points, we're talking about 4 points.

2 pass interference calls on the Raiders last drive, secondary injuries and the FG miss killed us.

The field goal miss, secondary injuries and the fumble killed us.

Now we know what we have to do so let's get it done Payton. WE NEED VETS IN THE SECONDARY NOW! GET TO TRADIN!

Everyone hop back on the bandwagon and get this s**t started!

Thank you. I was about to stop coming to this site until after we beat Atlanta.

hitta 09-19-2016 08:25 PM

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We are only 1 game back in the division and I've seen some real potential with this team. Far too early to start discounting this team. Everything I've seen this season has been a move in a positive direction from last year, even though we are 0-2. The wins will start coming when everything clicks together.

WhoDat!656 09-19-2016 09:13 PM

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No one mentions that the Saints defense did not allow an offensive TD against the Giants Sunday.

frydaddy 09-19-2016 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 720466)
No one mentions that the Saints defense did not allow an offensive TD against the Giants Sunday.

They limited the big plays and they were opportunistic. Had last week's offense shown up we would have blown them out of the water.

Here's hoping both units show up next Monday. While we're at it, let's make sure that the special teams only has to see the field on kickoffs. Go for 2 everytime lol.

pherein 09-19-2016 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 720466)
No one mentions that the Saints defense did not allow an offensive TD against the Giants Sunday.

Yeah you have to acknowledge the good with the bad. D played well considering most are rooks in the secondary. I also think the DL did better than some think and that took presure of the DB's. Plus D had to deal with a dead offense, Which can be frustrating.
When I played you literally want to walk over to the offencive bench and scream "How long are we suppose to hold get some damn points !"
Huge weakness on this team is SP, and Im not seeing a winning spirit in the locker room. Even Brees looked almost like he didnt know what to do anymore or losing faith in the presser after the game. That has me concerned.

spkb25 09-20-2016 04:10 AM

Re: Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 720422)
We are 21st against the run and would be 4th against the run if we take away that 75 yard run by the Raiders.

We are 10th in total offense and will get better.

We wouldn't have lost either game without all of the injuries in our secondary. It changes everything in the game. Our defense has done a great job considering. When you look at the numbers it doesn't give you the entire picture. We've lost 2 games by a total of 4 points, 4 points, we're talking about 4 points.

2 pass interference calls on the Raiders last drive, secondary injuries and the FG miss killed us.

The field goal miss, secondary injuries and the fumble killed us.

Now we know what we have to do so let's get it done Payton. WE NEED VETS IN THE SECONDARY NOW! GET TO TRADIN!

Everyone hop back on the bandwagon and get this s**t started!

Yep we have twice been within a play of winning, but we are still 0-2. That stat matters more than any of them. Talk to me in a few weeks after we win a few games. We have looked better than I thought we would, but we are still 0-2.

RaginCajun83 09-20-2016 11:59 AM

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"You are what your record says you are."

Bill Parcells

Cruize 09-20-2016 01:32 PM

Re: Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
I'm positive I love the Saints. Beyond that, I'm positive I'm just trying to be positive.

Rugby Saint II 09-21-2016 11:57 AM

Re: Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
I still feel like we can turn this thing around and I'm along for the ride from start to finish.

WillMacKenzie 09-21-2016 12:06 PM

Re: Room for Optimism.....oh yeah
 
If the locker room can stay together and use it as fuel, then it'll pay dividends later.

I'd rather a young team have some adversity and see that they can overcome it, than deal with adversity later, and not know how to deal with it. Mid-Late season is when you gotta string them together for the push. There are teams notorious for starting slow and getting hot later, which then carries through to the post season.

saintfan 09-21-2016 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 720627)
If the locker room can stay together and use it as fuel, then it'll pay dividends later.


WillMacKenzie 09-21-2016 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 720639)

haha zacktly


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