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dizzle88 09-26-2016 11:01 PM

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For anyone saying that it's only injuries holding us back, check the stat that says we are 4-11 in last 15 home games.

This problem starts with Payton, he has no direction with this team and is just making it up as he goes along.

saintshrimp 09-26-2016 11:07 PM

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Next game watch Sean on the sidelines and I'll show you guy that has lost it. He don't even believe.

dizzle88 09-26-2016 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 721524)
Next game watch Sean on the sidelines and I'll show you guy that has lost it.

You see Sean from 2006-2011 and he was constantly fired up, calling players out for poor play

Ever since the suspension he looks like he doesn't care anymore. It's not fair to the fans, he's messed this team up in a big way.

Yeah we've got injuries, so do New England, they will be starting a rookie or edelman at QB and still find a way to win.

pherein 09-26-2016 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 721518)
This loss really hurt...but considering the attrition we've endured these past five weeks, thought the team played a good game down to the end...

NE has the same , even worse and they win, its an excuse. There is no heart in this team

Lord_Saint83 09-26-2016 11:15 PM

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And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

jeanpierre 09-26-2016 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 721519)
For anyone saying that it's only injuries holding us back, check the stat that says we are 4-11 in last 15 home games.

This problem starts with Payton, he has no direction with this team and is just making it up as he goes along.

No Dizz, there are still some dysfunctions with this team...

Draft Management, Flip-flopping on defensive philosophies, Draft Management, Bad Contracts/Dead Money, Draft Management, failure to commit to the run and Draft Management...

My point was that the guys that were "available" tonight, played their arses off...

jeanpierre 09-26-2016 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 721531)
And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

That's a great point...

Look, I wasn't happy when Dennis Allen was made DC and we were changing the defense, yet again, knowing we just spend the last three drafts getting players to fit a 3-4...

But D.A. is in now and we've made our change, let's just see it through and not reverse course again...

dizzle88 09-26-2016 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 721531)
And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.

dizzle88 09-26-2016 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 721533)
No Dizz, there are still some dysfunctions with this team...

Draft Management, Flip-flopping on defensive philosophies, Draft Management, Bad Contracts/Dead Money, Draft Management, failure to commit to the run and Draft Management...

My point was that the guys that were "available" tonight, played their arses off...

Which 80-90% of that is Sean Paytons jurisdiction and therefore he should take the blame.

jeanpierre 09-26-2016 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 721537)
Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.

And this is where I fault Loomis and ultimately, Benson...

Any team that has given one man too much personnel power has failed in this league (will cite Chip Kelly in Philadelphia as the latest example of this)...

Belichick, to his credit, brings in bright personnel people to challenge him and brings something other than "I'm the son of Coach (Fill In Name)" types...

Payton is still one of the best game planners, schemers, he just beats himself before he gets to the field with really bad personnel decisions and doesn't have a strong enough personality in a GM to take him to task or question him...

jeanpierre 09-26-2016 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 721372)
Myles Garrett is gonna look real good in the black and gold!

Chris, are you an Aggie?!? ;)

neugey 09-27-2016 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 721505)
On display tonight: slow linebackers and slow safeties. We probably have slowest defense in the NFL.

It was one thing to make Freeman look like Sonic the Hedgehog, but our defense was so slow and unthreatening that Matt Ryan didn't even feel like he needed to slide, multiple times. Matt Ryan! That was the ultimate insult.

ChrisXVI 09-27-2016 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 721545)
Chris, are you an Aggie?!? ;)

Nah, just tired of seeing the sloooow Paul Kruger lined up at the 9 technique and not even sniffing the QB. It's not working.

neugey 09-27-2016 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 721576)
Nah, just tired of seeing the sloooow Paul Kruger lined up at the 9 technique and not even sniffing the QB. It's not working.

I think Kruger is sniffing the QB, but it's only because Matt Ryan has terrible body odor that carries yards away :)

SaintsBro 09-27-2016 07:30 AM

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Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 721591)
Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me.

Just like last season when Payton ran onto the field celebrating as if we'd won the superbowl, it was actually week 17 and our 7th win of the season, completely embarrassing.

K Major 09-27-2016 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 721591)
Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me.

Nick Fairley doesn't get a pass as well. Dancing (after a meaningless sack) as the clock runs, down by 3+ scores.

I don't get it.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 07:58 AM

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Side note, has anyone watched Hard Knocks: LA Rams?

Their D line coach is one tough SOB, Former marine and screams at the D line if they don't win in one on one drills.

The D line is probably the best unit on the Rams team, whilst we have Bill Johnson who looks like he enjoys too much processed food and is so far up Paytons rear, he can smell the Vicodin.

K Major 09-27-2016 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 721412)
Falcons have scored on 6 consecutive drives

Here is a mind boggling stat for you Dizz ...

The Falcons rushed for 217 yards last night, and 155 of those yards gained came before any contact by the defense.
This may be the worst stat I've ever read.

What is Bill Johnson doing at practice ? Our defensive interior line coach has done a poor job in preparing this team. Special teams have been below average as well.

Changes are needed and necessary if you want to compete at this level.

dizzle88 09-27-2016 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 721627)
Here is a mind boggling stat for you Dizz ...

The Falcons rushed for 217 yards last night, and 155 of those yards gained came before any contact by the defense.
This may be the worst stat I've ever read.

What is Bill Johnson doing at practice ? Our defensive interior line coach has done a poor job in preparing this team. Special teams have been below average as well.

Changes are needed and necessary if you want to compete at this level.

:shock:

I'm completely lost for words....

Bill Johnson obviously has the D lineman fetching him big macs instead of running drills...

neugey 09-27-2016 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 721627)
Here is a mind boggling stat for you Dizz ...

The Falcons rushed for 217 yards last night, and 155 of those yards gained came before any contact by the defense.
This may be the worst stat I've ever read.

Wow. And this probably doesn't include the short passes to Freeman and Coleman.

This speaks to how bad our gap and contain assignments were last night. Very undisciplined play. When the pursuit was so bad that Matt Ryan didn't even have to slide on scrambles, that's when you know there is a serious problem. You cannot blame that on the injuries, you have to put it on the coaching.


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