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Utah_Saint 11-09-2016 05:30 PM

Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason
 
Saints right tackle Zach Strief rated as league's best at midseason, website says | NOLA.com

The offensive line is one of the strengths of this team. Kinda surprising considering how bad they looked in preseason.

Danno 11-09-2016 05:37 PM

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Well deserved, but as soon as he has 1 bad game the Strief haters will claim he sucks.

iceshack149 11-09-2016 05:38 PM

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What? No fanfare? This guy has been called garbage on this very site and has been solid since his days of being declared eligible in spot duty.
Whodat, Zach!

dizzle88 11-09-2016 05:49 PM

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I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason.

Danno 11-09-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 726624)
I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason.

There's a huge difference between someone who was concerned about our O-line, and the clowns who kept calling Strief garbage.

skymike 11-09-2016 07:25 PM

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LOLOLOL....
Zach is the GW Bush of Saints football.
He gets so much hate, but they cant get rid of him, for another term.
Count me as a fan of Zach, the player and the person.

skymike 11-09-2016 07:26 PM

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really good to see the improvement in Peat.

saintfan 11-09-2016 09:38 PM

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Nothing against him.

...but he wouldn't be rated so highly with any other QB.

K Major 11-09-2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 726621)
The offensive line is one of the strengths of this team. Kinda surprising considering how bad they looked in preseason.

Look no further than O line coach Dan Rousar ...

hagan714 11-10-2016 12:32 AM

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Zach is a player that earns your respect on the field. shame he is not 25 years old still. need a prospect to groom at RT.

AsylumGuido 11-10-2016 07:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 726624)
I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason.

At least you are man enough to admit it. There were two or three others that had the Saints offensive line pegged as the worst ever at the start of the season that have mysteriously disappeared. :cool3:

jlaw8920 11-10-2016 08:08 AM

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I have been critical of Strief in the past, and I think I have finally realized why. He plays great a lot of the time, but it feels like many of the plays in the past where Drew gets lit up or dinged up, the rusher comes from his side. I guess Strief is unlucky that the few times he gets beat the rusher gets a better hit on Brees?

Not sure if that is a correct assessment, but I'm glad to admit I was wrong and happy he is playing well.

Ashley 11-10-2016 08:09 AM

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I'm one of the ones that has hated on him since the beginning. Glad to see he is making me run and hide, like a little...
Hope he can continue to play at the level he is, so I don't have to come out and bash on him again

AsylumGuido 11-10-2016 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jlaw8920 (Post 726682)
I have been critical of Strief in the past, and I think I have finally realized why. He plays great a lot of the time, but it feels like many of the plays in the past where Drew gets lit up or dinged up, the rusher comes from his side. I guess Strief is unlucky that the few times he gets beat the rusher gets a better hit on Brees?

Not sure if that is a correct assessment, but I'm glad to admit I was wrong and happy he is playing well.

Strief had one memorable bad outing against Houston that many people cling to. But, that was J. J. Watt and Watt was destroying EVERY tackle in the league. And don't forget, Jahri Evans was was playing one armed beside him with the bad wrist.

rezburna 11-10-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jlaw8920 (Post 726682)
I have been critical of Strief in the past, and I think I have finally realized why. He plays great a lot of the time, but it feels like many of the plays in the past where Drew gets lit up or dinged up, the rusher comes from his side. I guess Strief is unlucky that the few times he gets beat the rusher gets a better hit on Brees?

Not sure if that is a correct assessment, but I'm glad to admit I was wrong and happy he is playing well.

I guess that was the case for me as well. I'll leave the guy alone. Perhaps I was wrong. Go Strief. And if he's the best RT they need to reflect it in his Madden rating. An 85 is too low.

burningmetal 11-10-2016 11:04 AM

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Laughable. Nothing against Strief, I say it over and over.

People made the same arguments for Bushrod, who famously (and ridiculously) made a pro bowl here, and when he left we pretty much never heard from him again. He either gets help, or he peels off toward the inside and lets the running back or tight end take the edge rusher a lot of the time, from what I have seen. Yet that is ignored by all of these people with their rating systems.

The Saints have found a way to make this offensive line work enough for them. I don't believe for a second that it can't be drastically improved in spots.

burningmetal 11-10-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 726677)
At least you are man enough to admit it. There were two or three others that had the Saints offensive line pegged as the worst ever at the start of the season that have mysteriously disappeared. :cool3:

Nobody ever said worst ever. That is your typical hyperbole to make yourself feel better.

The line was garbage a year ago, and they brought the entirety of it back, with Peat being the only one young enough to make the inexperienced excuse. Peat has improved in the run game, still not that great at pass blocking. Our running game comes and goes, and our QB still has to get rid of the ball early. Is it as bad as it could have been? No. It's been decent. But we have players on offense who mask a lot of would be issues, in my opinion.

AsylumGuido 11-10-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 726695)
Nobody ever said worst ever. That is your typical hyperbole to make yourself feel better.

The line was garbage a year ago, and they brought the entirety of it back, with Peat being the only one young enough to make the inexperienced excuse. Peat has improved in the run game, still not that great at pass blocking. Our running game comes and goes, and our QB still has to get rid of the ball early. Is it as bad as it could have been? No. It's been decent. But we have players on offense who mask a lot of would be issues, in my opinion.

Do you remember this?

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 713583)
I, for one, am not on any ledge. But do I think the line sucks? Abso-freaking-lutely.

I watched the replay, too. Protection was just as bad as ever, and so was the run game. And being that it IS pre-season, defenses aren't exactly firing away out there. Plus, there was no JJ Watt.

I'm all for giving guys time to gel, but this is the same group from last year. How long does it take to gel? I think the defense will be improved, and depending on how far the pass rush has come (of which, there is no true barometer until the real season starts) they could even be vastly improved. But on offense, everything hinges on that O-line, and nothing is indicating to me that it is heading in the right direction.

That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better.

:D

Utah_Saint 11-10-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 726657)
Zach is a player that earns your respect on the field. shame he is not 25 years old still. need a prospect to groom at RT.

This is where I keep underestimating Strief. For the last three years I've been thinking "this is his last season". I hope he proves me wrong again next year.

Rugby Saint II 11-10-2016 12:35 PM

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He's getting lots of help and it is smart coaching. Dan Roushar(?) rocks!!!

QBREES9 11-10-2016 01:09 PM

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Always been a fan of Zach. Congrats.

Crusader 11-10-2016 04:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jlaw8920 (Post 726682)
I have been critical of Strief in the past, and I think I have finally realized why. He plays great a lot of the time, but it feels like many of the plays in the past where Drew gets lit up or dinged up, the rusher comes from his side. I guess Strief is unlucky that the few times he gets beat the rusher gets a better hit on Brees?

Not sure if that is a correct assessment, but I'm glad to admit I was wrong and happy he is playing well.

A lot of the pressure came from the right last year but it was mainly from the guys that was the guards responsibility to pick up.

burningmetal 11-10-2016 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 726696)
Do you remember this?



That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better.

:D

I remember posting that very clearly. When did I say "worst ever"? You're referencing a post where I said I watched a replay of some game where our protection was as bad as ever. That means as bad as it's been. Not as bad as any in the history of football. How did you manage to twist that? You just went through my posts and tried to find the closest thing you could come up with to twist my words into making your point?

I was skeptical, and had every reason to be. It's been better than I expected. That said, it is far from a strength, as some have suggested, in my humble opinion.

As for the other posters you mentioned, I don't know where they are, are why they haven't been around according to you, but I don't remember them saying "worst ever", either. Everyone was skeptical, because it was the same group that struggled mightily a year ago, and it wasn't a particularly young line.

Meanwhile, many people, such as myself, said this was going to be either a .500 or maybe 10-6 team, if everything broke right, because there were too many question marks. You complained about that and called us negative nancy's. Well it's been an up and down year and we're 4-4. You want to talk about that?

We all had our opinions. And not everything plays out the way you think, or hope it will.

st thomas 11-10-2016 08:36 PM

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u know when zack were playing under par he would constantly say something about being healthy would be the answer , i do believe he struggled at times because he was not at 100%.

CheramieIII 11-13-2016 11:07 AM

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Then he needs to show all of us a little sunthin, sunthin and pancake Von!

saintshrimp 12-11-2016 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 726696)
Do you remember this?



That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better.

:D

It isnt that ive been avoiding the fourm its it gets real old trying to convince stubborn people like you who cant see through your Fandom that this team isnt very good.

hagan714 12-11-2016 07:13 PM

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gotta groom a replacement. those tusk will be dragging on the turf before to long.

Talk about a great story for him.


My Draft Story: Zach Strief

Zach Strief, Northwestern, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

QBREES9 12-11-2016 08:17 PM

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This is good news. They just have to many issues every where else.

WillSaints81 12-24-2016 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 729888)
It isnt that ive been avoiding the fourm its it gets real old trying to convince stubborn people like you who cant see through your Fandom that this team isnt very good.

What's his version of better? A slow improvement of the oline?

WillSaints81 12-25-2016 01:19 AM

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Oh and the reason I may have been on less is because I have school.


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