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K Major 11-18-2016 09:49 AM

Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 18, 2016, 4:58 AM EST

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CHARLOTTE, NC - NOVEMBER 17: Wil Lutz #3 of the New Orleans Saints kicks a field goal against the Carolina Panthers at Bank of America Stadium on November 17, 2016 in Charlotte, North Carolina. (Photo by Mike Comer/Getty Images)
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The Saints have lost close games thanks in large part to special teams miscues two weeks in a row, and coach Sean Payton is fed up.

Payton said after Thursday night’s loss to the Panthers, which included a blocked field goal that set up a Carolina touchdown, that he needs to look at what is happening on special teams.

“The sequence, the blocked field goal, that’s a 10 point swing. Two weeks in a row now we are struggling just to kick a PAT or a field goal, it’s disappointing,” Payton said.

Last week the Saints lost to the Broncos when what could have been a game-winning extra point was blocked and returned for two points by Denver. Payton said the Saints will be looking at whether they need to make changes to their special teams personnel.

“We have a long break here and take a look at it all,” Payton said. “Fundamentally we have to be able to kick an extra point. If we come up short we have to be able to kick a field goal that’s a makable one. We have just struggled in that area. It cost us in New York, it cost us last week in Denver and it cost us again tonight.”

In the tight NFC South, special teams might cost the Saints a playoff berth.

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ChrisXVI 11-18-2016 10:31 AM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
And I'm sure McMahon is really sorry about that, but take some freaking action Payton! You and McMahon can hang out at your Eastern Illinois get-together's with your other college buddies.

blackangold 11-18-2016 10:56 AM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Nothing will change...
"We'll look at it", that's about all he'll do. Might have been a good idea to look at it before it gave you 3 loses. Guess what, it sucked last year too.

dizzle88 11-18-2016 11:06 AM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Payton hasn't got the minerals to do anything about it.

He's one of Payton's "Yes men" so he will try to brush it under the carpet until it hurts us again, which it will.

Saintsfan4ever 11-18-2016 12:00 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
It's Disappointing? really? Well, that's nice. I'd be furious and embarrassed if my special teams looked like a poorly coached junior high squad.

SmashMouth 11-18-2016 02:16 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/hiX84mb.jpg

QBREES9 11-18-2016 04:52 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
What the Hell was that.

Danno 11-18-2016 05:11 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
McMahon won't be here long.
But just as in business, you don't replace someone unless you have an upgrade available.
But I'd imagine Payton has a list of upgrades

Rugby Saint II 11-18-2016 05:44 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 727867)
McMahon won't be here long.
But just as in business, you don't replace someone unless you have an upgrade available.
But I'd imagine Payton has a list of upgrades

I know you hate polls Danno but did you vote in the McMahon poll? Do you think he's gone after the season?

I believe the kicking problems are correctable with good coaching.

Audiotom 11-18-2016 09:53 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
NY Giants was which game on the schedule?

Blocked short fg run back for td

Right then - correct it

Reinforce the front
Work on kicker ball trajectory
Put faster players on the edges to stop runback

Now three games, two in a row
McMahon needs to go, now
He has been a liability forever
The only bright spot is Morestead

blackangold 11-18-2016 10:07 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Special teams has been a problem for 4 years... Nothing new, it will continue next year. He is buddies with Payton and won't go anywhere.

44Champs 11-18-2016 10:51 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 727867)
McMahon won't be here long.
But just as in business, you don't replace someone unless you have an upgrade available.
But I'd imagine Payton has a list of upgrades

Available upgrades:
- The cashier at my local McDonalds
- My daughter's bearded dragon
- The Dumber guy in Dumb & Dumber
- A hairball


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CheramieIII 11-19-2016 06:29 AM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Disappointed? How many games has special teams lost for us this year? Take care of it now Payton. Do I remember a Payton that was a lot more risk taking and hard charging? Just sayin. Maybe instead of WHODAT we need to start saying DEYDAT!

dizzle88 11-19-2016 06:56 AM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Just going off point for a second, anyone else think it's a little lame that Brees continues to get the fans to do the Who dat chant prior to the game?

I mean it's not like we are defending SB champs or anything, we are washed up team that chants "Who dat say they gon' beat them Saints," and then the other team wins.

hagan714 11-19-2016 07:50 AM

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We all see the huge void on the OL for the past few years especially on the right side. so does the rest of the NFL.

Seer1 11-19-2016 09:03 AM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Maybe, just maybe, Sean hasn't thought of it yet. How about Black & Gold starting a campaign? Show up at the games with Can McMahon signs. Post them up close to Sean's home. Get Sean's favorite restaurants to hang one up. Hey, Sean does have a lot on his plate. Let's help him out a bit.

stickman 11-19-2016 10:03 AM

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Okay, Sean is "disappointed". Now I feel better.

RailBoss 11-19-2016 11:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 727900)
Maybe, just maybe, Sean hasn't thought of it yet. How about Black & Gold starting a campaign? Show up at the games with Can McMahon signs. Post them up close to Sean's home. Get Sean's favorite restaurants to hang one up. Hey, Sean does have a lot on his plate. Let's help him out a bit.

SP will look at the signs and think "Can McMahon do what"

The Dude 11-19-2016 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 727881)
NY Giants was which game on the schedule?

Blocked short fg run back for td

Right then - correct it

Reinforce the front
Work on kicker ball trajectory
Put faster players on the edges to stop runback

Now three games, two in a row
McMahon needs to go, now
He has been a liability forever
The only bright spot is Morestead

Firing him right now would send a message to other coaches to shape up or ship out. They see him willing to fire a friend mid season means he will give anyone the boot. I'm surprised we haven't seen more turnover on assistant coaches besides D.C. McMissit should have been gone years ago.

dizzle88 11-19-2016 11:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 727907)
Firing him right now would send a message to other coaches to shape up or ship out. They see him willing to fire a friend mid season means he will give anyone the boot. I'm surprised we haven't seen more turnover on assistant coaches besides D.C. McMissit should have been gone years ago.

That's the problem, McMahon is as comfortable as can be because Payton hasn't got the minerals to do anything about it.

vpheughan 11-19-2016 01:03 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
He's "disappointed"? Oh that's good, I thought maybe it was just us!! It's time to fire someone!

Danno 11-19-2016 01:42 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
WWL had Morten Andersen on the other night. He stated the problem appears to be both slow get off and a low trajectory. But he said both can be corrected, but it usually takes an off-season to do it.

http://media.wwl.com/a/117491939/11-...pageid=1498971

hagan714 11-19-2016 02:37 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
try over load the right side and run over the OL

spkb25 11-19-2016 02:48 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
you don't air your business in the media.

neugey 11-19-2016 04:20 PM

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I don't blame Lutz from what I saw. There was ton of penetration on his right side along with real push up the middle allowing the guy in the middle to get that block. All that penetration on the right then turned into a convoy of blockers for Kuechly.

To be honest, Kuechly was probably in there as a last line of defense to guard the goalline against a fake or a broken play. The block field goal return was kind of a freak play the way it set up, but when you get push like the Panthers did, not really.

vpheughan 11-19-2016 05:16 PM

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Why isn't Morten Andersen a hired "consultant"? He should be on permanent retainer with the Saints!

AllSaints 11-19-2016 05:38 PM

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These blocked FG attempts have made me to start drinking heavily...

Audiotom 11-20-2016 12:48 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
The signs should read

Mcmahon

You're fired

And feature our incoming president's photo



That will get media attention

Rugby Saint II 11-20-2016 02:13 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 727919)
WWL had Morten Andersen on the other night. He stated the problem appears to be both slow get off and a low trajectory. But he said both can be corrected, but it usually takes an off-season to do it.

11-18 5pm Deuce, T-Bob & Kristian: talking Saints with Morten Andersen

Both can be corrected with good coaching ! Therein lies the problem. We won't get a good special teams coach because of Payton's blind loyalty and Loomis doesn't have the balls to fire McMahon.

Tobias-Reiper 11-20-2016 02:27 PM

Re: Sean Payton disappointed in Saints’ special teams
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 727957)
The signs should read

Mcmahon

You're fired

And feature our incoming president's photo


Just no.


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