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K Major 11-20-2016 04:28 PM

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Special teams has been anything but special for the New Orleans Saints this season. It appears the Saints will attempt to aid the unit by adding a special teams coach to the existing staff, Fox's Jay Glazer reported Sunday morning.

The Saints already have two special teams coaches with Greg McMahon as the coordinator and Stan Kwan as the assistant coach. The report didn't include who will be joining the staff.

Sean Payton didn't want to single out anyone from the staff in his Friday press conference for the poor play in the loss to Carolina on Thursday. Instead, he pointed the finger at himself.

Follies have been plentiful for the Saints on special teams all season with issues in the kicking game and the return game.

The Saints have watched three field goals blocked with two turning into a Giants touchdown and a Broncos two-point conversion. The block in Carolina nearly became a TD, but was negated for a block in the back. The Panthers did score a TD on the next play, though.

The kick-return game ranks near the bottom of the NFL and there's been a revolving door in the kick and punt returner jobs.

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jnormand 11-20-2016 04:37 PM

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I don't get this. I'm a big supporter of Payton, but this seems ridiculous. It almost screams that he is just taking care of buddies and not taking care of business.

I really wish he would just get rid of McMahon. Cmon Payton.

dizzle88 11-20-2016 04:49 PM

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Just gives him a reason to keep McMahon around and look like he's doing something about the issues.

Tobias-Reiper 11-20-2016 05:00 PM

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On the other hand, it may be a Ryan-Allen situation, in which someone is brought in to eventually take over.

K Major 11-20-2016 06:22 PM

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WillSaints81 11-20-2016 07:18 PM

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Is he any good?

K Major 11-20-2016 08:22 PM

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Is he any good?

Not sure however he could be a cure for the mental breakdowns our guys have been having on kickoffs (see Murphy/Cadet/Hightower).

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neugey 11-20-2016 09:45 PM

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If there was ever a need for a Monday pink slip ...

SaintsBro 11-20-2016 10:21 PM

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Un-fricking-believable. Let's just keep spending Mr. Benson's money, shall we? Dead money on players, now we have dead money spent on coaches on the staff who aren't doing anything....

44Champs 11-20-2016 10:54 PM

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Pitiful management. What a joke!

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MatthewT 11-21-2016 04:51 AM

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I agree that something needs to be done with the coaching, but I am not sure what can be done when a team is so far down the depth chart as the Saints are?

The Dude 11-21-2016 07:32 PM

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Sent the message to McMahon that he is going to be released. The rest of the season is an audition for a coaching job somewhere else. Might be a genius move. He knows he can't be complacent now because he won't be employed by his friend anymore.

spkb25 11-21-2016 08:38 PM

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smart, mcmahon is on thin ice. jhe is sending a message while also not completely changing things midseason

Fleured 11-22-2016 07:30 AM

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If Payton wants, he can hire me as well as a remote special teams consultant. My first order of business would be to tell him that this move is a frivolous exercise and looks to the outsider as entitling McMahon. #TakingTwoPeopleToChangeALightbulb

jeanpierre 11-22-2016 10:21 AM

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Un-fricking-believable. Let's just keep spending Mr. Benson's money, shall we? Dead money on players, now we have dead money spent on coaches on the staff who aren't doing anything....

Yeah, Benson is barely getting by... :rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 11-22-2016 02:17 PM

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Un-fricking-believable. Let's just keep spending Mr. Benson's money, shall we? Dead money on players, now we have dead money spent on coaches on the staff who aren't doing anything....

Why are you so worried about a billionaire's money?

SaintsBro 11-22-2016 07:55 PM

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Why are you so worried about a billionaire's money?

Ha, like you think I care. Not that I am worried about it, trust me, but this move reminds me of what happens to companies in Japan -- when a business executive is performing poorly, rather than fire him and admit that the company made a mistake, they will just hire another executive to move right in beside him and do his job for him, rather than face the dishonor of admitting that the company has dead weight on staff or made a bad move in hiring. These companies have people who are executives and managers, but they are paid to basically show up and tend their garden. It's like in the TV show ""Silicon Valley" where they promote useless people to offices on the roof....

This move is about Payton saving face and avoiding reality....surely there has to be a reason why they are now paying three special teams coaches to do the job that one was supposed to be doing -- although I know that you have the black and gold goggles on and will never ever admit or acknowledge that. They have been propping up McMahon for years with bringing in kicking consultants like Carney, and adding assistants, and with Payton stepping in to help him....and yet with all the help he's had, the unit is STILL consistently one of the worst in the league and barely able to kick an extra point on Sundays.


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