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WhoDat!656 12-06-2016 07:08 AM

Saints' Cameron Jordan played through MCL sprain earlier this season
 
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jeanpierre 12-06-2016 07:12 AM

Re: Saints' Cameron Jordan played through MCL sprain earlier this season
 
Had one...Nothing nice...Glad he sucked it up for 10 mil/year...his size/weight/age it's gonna happen again...Great offseason trade bait for a high draft pick for his replacement...seriously...

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-06-2016 09:42 AM

Re: Saints' Cameron Jordan played through MCL sprain earlier this season
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 729423)
Had one...Nothing nice...Glad he sucked it up for 10 mil/year...his size/weight/age it's gonna happen again...Great offseason trade bait for a high draft pick for his replacement...seriously...

I have a gentle suggestion. Before suggesting a trade or cutting a player always take a look at their contract:

Cameron Jordan Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

and note a couple of things:

1. No matter the transaction, the team is responsible for the signing bonus and the guaranteed money. That's the reason for the $22 million this year and $16 million next year in the dead cap column.

2. Always observe the difference between the cap hit and the dead money. Almost always when it is upside down (dead money > cap hit) the likelyhood of that player moving anywhere is virtually zero.

3. The first offseason that difference is right side up is when to look for movement of some type (restructure, cut, trade, etc.)

So looking at Jordan's contract, don't expect to see anything before 2018.

Loomis is first and foremost a capologist. So before thinking about any transaction, look at the cap implications first.

Byrd was another example of this. He was simply too expensive to move until after this season. Expect a restructure or a cut this season:

Jairus Byrd Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

Pretty much all NFL big money contracts are guaranteed until the cap hit/dead money breakover occurs. Players get up front money and at least a couple of years of stability. Teams get to spread out the cap hit giving a bit of cap relief and the flexibility to move players after the first 2-3 years of the contract. It's the win-win that drives this type of contract structure. But for both the player and the team there is a disincentive to try to do anything in that first 2-3 years of a new contract.

SFIAH

jonnyrotten 12-06-2016 01:27 PM

Re: Saints' Cameron Jordan played through MCL sprain earlier this season
 
impressive for Cam Jordan, he has played fantastic all year.

ChrisXVI 12-06-2016 01:48 PM

Re: Saints' Cameron Jordan played through MCL sprain earlier this season
 
That certainly explains it. He was such a nonfactor those first couple of games.


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