So the turning point against the raiders week 1

WillSaints81 · 12-12-2016, 06:02 PM

was when their starting cb got benched for Hayden. It was after that Cooks TD too. Also, raiders moved Osmele to left tackle to help Carr come back. Now this was the loss that truly unnerves me because 1.We had a big lead and 2.This wasn't a pass rushing team that disrupts the QB. So the fact we lost this game here does not sit well with me and it is ultimately why we are 5-8.

Danno · 12-12-2016, 06:09 PM

What?

K Major · 12-12-2016, 06:37 PM

ChrisXVI · 12-12-2016, 07:05 PM

The turning point in the Raiders game was Breaux getting injured. If that doesn't happen we win. Likewise, if PJ Williams doesn't get knocked out in week 2 against the Giants we win. I truly believe those 2 injuries cost us big time.

WillSaints81 · 12-15-2016, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

The turning point in the Raiders game was Breaux getting injured. If that doesn't happen we win. Likewise, if PJ Williams doesn't get knocked out in week 2 against the Giants we win. I truly believe those 2 injuries cost us big time.

When you have a two possession lead and was scoring at will pretty much throughout that game how do you give that game away. The saints only scored one more FG in the next three drives. A lot of good teams in the league come back from down two TDs to teams all the time. I watch a lot of Redzone so I should know. You don't act like you have the game won when you score 24 points. The saints underestimated Carr. And I don't believe that injury was to blame at all.

But there's an article about it. Sean Smith had a bad game and the team benched him.

ChrisXVI · 12-15-2016, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

When you have a two possession lead and was scoring at will pretty much throughout that game how do you give that game away. The saints only scored one more FG in the next three drives. A lot of good teams in the league come back from down two TDs to teams all the time. I watch a lot of Redzone so I should know. You don't act like you have the game won when you score 24 points. The saints underestimated Carr. And I don't believe that injury was to blame at all.

But there's an article about it. Sean Smith had a bad game and the team benched him.

I don't think the Raiders start scoring all those points to come back if it's Breaux and Williams out there instead of relying on Crawley. You're also correct though regarding taking the foot off the gas.

K Major · 12-12-2016, 07:26 PM

Oh ...

Off the top of my head ... bad clock management, abandoning the run game & the lack of a pass rush.

Lastly, no depth at the corner back position.

Danno · 12-13-2016, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Oh ...

Off the top of my head ... bad clock management, abandoning the run game & the lack of a pass rush.

Lastly, no depth at the corner back position.

Lack of depth is an understatement. It wasn't just lack of depth, it was lack of starters

K Major · 12-12-2016, 07:26 PM

Side note ... IIRC the officiating was pretty bad in this one.

http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orlea...6046b2d24.html

jeanpierre · 12-13-2016, 02:10 AM

The loss for the Raiders, in hindsight, did portend alot of things to come...

- Injuries

- Close game, letting the NFL Officiating a$$f*ck us

- Throttling the offensive play calling instead of keeping the gas pedal to the floor

- Failing to stop deep passes on defense

- Abandoning run game, not mixing road grading with spread formations

- Poor special teams play

It was all there on display and with the exception of a newly installed defense gelling and getting relatively healthy...

12-12-2016, 06:02 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	So the turning point against the raiders week 1 was when their starting cb got benched for Hayden. It was after that Cooks TD too. Also, raiders moved Osmele to left tackle to help Carr come back. Now this was the loss that truly unnerves me because 1.We had a big lead and 2.This wasn't a pass rushing team that disrupts the QB. So the fact we lost this game here does not sit well with me and it is ultimately why we are 5-8.

12-12-2016, 06:09 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: So the turning point against the raiders week 1 What? jnormand and captainshawn like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: So the turning point against the raiders week 1 The turning point in the Raiders game was Breaux getting injured. If that doesn't happen we win. Likewise, if PJ Williams doesn't get knocked out in week 2 against the Giants we win. I truly believe those 2 injuries cost us big time.

12-15-2016, 08:01 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: So the turning point against the raiders week 1 Originally Posted by ChrisXVI The turning point in the Raiders game was Breaux getting injured. If that doesn't happen we win. Likewise, if PJ Williams doesn't get knocked out in week 2 against the Giants we win. I truly believe those 2 injuries cost us big time. When you have a two possession lead and was scoring at will pretty much throughout that game how do you give that game away. The saints only scored one more FG in the next three drives. A lot of good teams in the league come back from down two TDs to teams all the time. I watch a lot of Redzone so I should know. You don't act like you have the game won when you score 24 points. The saints underestimated Carr. And I don't believe that injury was to blame at all. But there's an article about it. Sean Smith had a bad game and the team benched him.

12-15-2016, 08:08 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: So the turning point against the raiders week 1 Originally Posted by WillSaints81 When you have a two possession lead and was scoring at will pretty much throughout that game how do you give that game away. The saints only scored one more FG in the next three drives. A lot of good teams in the league come back from down two TDs to teams all the time. I watch a lot of Redzone so I should know. You don't act like you have the game won when you score 24 points. The saints underestimated Carr. And I don't believe that injury was to blame at all. But there's an article about it. Sean Smith had a bad game and the team benched him. I don't think the Raiders start scoring all those points to come back if it's Breaux and Williams out there instead of relying on Crawley. You're also correct though regarding taking the foot off the gas.

12-12-2016, 07:26 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: So the turning point against the raiders week 1 Oh ... Off the top of my head ... bad clock management, abandoning the run game & the lack of a pass rush. Lastly, no depth at the corner back position. Danno and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: So the turning point against the raiders week 1 Originally Posted by K Major Oh ... Off the top of my head ... bad clock management, abandoning the run game & the lack of a pass rush. Lastly, no depth at the corner back position. Lack of depth is an understatement. It wasn't just lack of depth, it was lack of starters K Major likes this.

12-13-2016, 02:10 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: So the turning point against the raiders week 1 The loss for the Raiders, in hindsight, did portend alot of things to come... - Injuries - Close game, letting the NFL Officiating a$$f*ck us - Throttling the offensive play calling instead of keeping the gas pedal to the floor - Failing to stop deep passes on defense - Abandoning run game, not mixing road grading with spread formations - Poor special teams play It was all there on display and with the exception of a newly installed defense gelling and getting relatively healthy...

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