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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 Indirectly sure, but an even bigger factor is probably our loss of prime time games etc. Just reduced popularity as a whole is a money depriving situation, and you're right. All of that is related to ...

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Old 12-22-2016, 10:15 AM   #1
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Re: Gruden, Sean Payton, Shaw options for Rams HC position

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Indirectly sure, but an even bigger factor is probably our loss of prime time games etc. Just reduced popularity as a whole is a money depriving situation, and you're right. All of that is related to how many wins you get, and fans are getting sick of the lack of progress. Even if he gets next year, which is almost guaranteed, I don't think another 7-9 or 8-8 campaign will allow him anymore time.
Every game for the foreseeable future is sold out for the Saints, win or lose. As for loss of prime time games and/or popularity affecting the bottom line, you forget that the NFL uses a profit sharing approach. The Cleveland Browns get an equal share of the league wide profits gained from sources such as television contracts and merchandise sales, as does the New England Patriots. A team's record can only affect a team's income if butts are not in the seat and that is only a small percentage of the overall income.
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Every game for the foreseeable future is sold out for the Saints, win or lose. As for loss of prime time games and/or popularity affecting the bottom line, you forget that the NFL uses a profit sharing approach. The Cleveland Browns get an equal share of the league wide profits gained from sources such as television contracts and merchandise sales, as does the New England Patriots. A team's record can only affect a team's income if butts are not in the seat and that is only a small percentage of the overall income.
Maybe, but the revenue generated purely from ticket sales is what 120 million-150 million per year. I mean yeah if half the tickets didn't sell that would be something, but 10-20% although noticeable wouldn't make or break a team financially. Wouldn't help, obviously, but certainly wouldn't destroy them. At the end of the day when you keep churning 7-9, I don't know if it is purely revenue motivated, but you're not going to be coach anymore.

This idea that we don't know what's on the other side, that is true, but we didn't know what was on the other side when we got SP. The idea is that you do your best to select the right person and hope he wins you some games.

SP is going to be here next year, barrring some miracle, I hope we are 12-4. If we are back to 7-9, then damn how many times until you learn your lesson. To keep saying that we don't know what is on the other side and that somehow should paralyze ourselves with fear into eternal mediocrity is nonsense. Pure rubbish.

And no offense AG, but I called 5-11 to 7-9 while we were in preseason, and you kept coming on here throwing temper tantrums at people. I am not really going to hear much of what you have to say on this subject simply because you have done this before, with other topics (involving the team), and been wrong.

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Old 12-22-2016, 07:34 PM   #3
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Maybe, but the revenue generated purely from ticket sales is what 120 million-150 million per year. I mean yeah if half the tickets didn't sell that would be something, but 10-20% although noticeable wouldn't make or break a team financially. Wouldn't help, obviously, but certainly wouldn't destroy them. At the end of the day when you keep churning 7-9, I don't know if it is purely revenue motivated, but you're not going to be coach anymore.

This idea that we don't know what's on the other side, that is true, but we didn't know what was on the other side when we got SP. The idea is that you do your best to select the right person and hope he wins you some games.

SP is going to be here next year, barrring some miracle, I hope we are 12-4. If we are back to 7-9, then damn how many times until you learn your lesson. To keep saying that we don't know what is on the other side and that somehow should paralyze ourselves with fear into eternal mediocrity is nonsense. Pure rubbish.

And no offense AG, but I called 5-11 to 7-9 while we were in preseason, and you kept coming on here throwing temper tantrums at people. I am not really going to hear much of what you have to say on this subject simply because you have done this before, with other topics (involving the team), and been wrong.
I'm still counting on 8-8 which could be enough to make the playoffs. But, before the season I felt the Saints easily had enough talent to win 12 games. If they could have avoided the rash of injuries that started before the season got under way I don't believe any of this talk would be circulating. Three years ago the problem was with the defense. The same problem last season. This year the injury bug. If the problem had been the offense I could understand the total blame on Payton, but I just can't see it in these cases at all.
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