Gruden, Sean Payton, Shaw options for Rams HC position

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-24-2016, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

All these people that ask "Who would you get to replace him?" As if SP is the only coach that's qualified. I'll post these facts again, and then you tell me WHY it's not a valid argument to have this discussion.

- 3 consecutive 0-3 starts
- 3 consecutive non-winning seasons
- Last time the team was even above .500 was back in 2013
- Defense ranked either dead last or towards the bottom for the last 3 years
- Worst ranked Special Teams unit
- Won't get rid of his cronies McMahon, Vitt & Johnson

There are a lot of unknowns out there as far as coaching candidates go. But we already know what we have w SP. I think his fire has gone out in in NOLA. Maybe he just needs a change to get relit like our team does.
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I notice that you still didn't answer the initial question. It really doesn't matter what Payton has or has not done. All that matters is who specifically can you bring into this organization in its current state and get significantly better production in a short time frame.

It's not a question of if Payton is qualified. It is a question of who might be qualified and why.

And please don't bother is unrealistic "pie in the sky" choices. Specifically: Gruden, Harbaugh, and Cowher. As has been pointed out before, but I'll repeat again, that all three essentially have their dream job. And more specifically Gruden and Cowher have a Super Bowl winning legacy to protect. Also specifically both of them have been out of football for many many years. As for Harbaugh, he's making $8 million a year and is more celebrated in Ann Arbor than the King of Bacchus at Mardi Gras.

And I just want to point out that the San Francisco 49ers made exactly the same stupid mistake with Harbaugh that many are proposing with Payton now. 1-13 and looking pitiful.

I'm not making the argument that only Payton is the solution. However, I'm going to continue to push back that the solution is to get rid of him for an option that is unknown or is made of unobtainium.

So please be specific on who you would staff with, excluding the three above (or any other ex-coach TV personality), and why staffing with that person is an improvement over Payton.

SFIAH

12-24-2016, 03:11 PM	#15
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Gruden, Sean Payton, Shaw options for Rams HC position Originally Posted by 44Champs All these people that ask "Who would you get to replace him?" As if SP is the only coach that's qualified. I'll post these facts again, and then you tell me WHY it's not a valid argument to have this discussion. - 3 consecutive 0-3 starts - 3 consecutive non-winning seasons - Last time the team was even above .500 was back in 2013 - Defense ranked either dead last or towards the bottom for the last 3 years - Worst ranked Special Teams unit - Won't get rid of his cronies McMahon, Vitt & Johnson There are a lot of unknowns out there as far as coaching candidates go. But we already know what we have w SP. I think his fire has gone out in in NOLA. Maybe he just needs a change to get relit like our team does. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk I notice that you still didn't answer the initial question. It really doesn't matter what Payton has or has not done. All that matters is who specifically can you bring into this organization in its current state and get significantly better production in a short time frame. It's not a question of if Payton is qualified. It is a question of who might be qualified and why. And please don't bother is unrealistic "pie in the sky" choices. Specifically: Gruden, Harbaugh, and Cowher. As has been pointed out before, but I'll repeat again, that all three essentially have their dream job. And more specifically Gruden and Cowher have a Super Bowl winning legacy to protect. Also specifically both of them have been out of football for many many years. As for Harbaugh, he's making $8 million a year and is more celebrated in Ann Arbor than the King of Bacchus at Mardi Gras. And I just want to point out that the San Francisco 49ers made exactly the same stupid mistake with Harbaugh that many are proposing with Payton now. 1-13 and looking pitiful. I'm not making the argument that only Payton is the solution. However, I'm going to continue to push back that the solution is to get rid of him for an option that is unknown or is made of unobtainium. So please be specific on who you would staff with, excluding the three above (or any other ex-coach TV personality), and why staffing with that person is an improvement over Payton. SFIAH nola_swammi, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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