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Suppose we did get a turnover driven defense this offseason. Yes, we would make the playoffs. However, without a offensive line good in all five positions, we will struggle against the teams with good pass rushes still and in road games against good defenses(vikings come to mind next year). That would set us back a couple of wins much like 2013 where on the road our oline issues were exposed and ultimately cost us a couple wins. That sent us from a first round bye to a wild card team. However, we would probably be a third or fourth seed given the schedule.


TB
Atlanta-0-2 likely
NO-1-1 likely
Carolina-1-1(I think the tide has turned where the sweep trend ends after this season)

That's 3-3 division for them.

NFC North
@GB-Loss
@Minnesota-They won in KC and SD in low scoring games. They can win here.
Detroit-Win. They have something we didn't have against Detroit.......a running game to bail out the qb.
Chicago-Loss. Good chance the bears end the Cutler era this time and you will see those pieces from our team look much better.

2-2 against the north for them.

AFC East
NE-Loss.
NYJ-Jets have had their number. If secondary gets to Evans, game over.
@Miami-Loss but it's close.
@Buffalo-Loss likely.

They have gone 0-2 on the road in odd years here so I could see them getting swept by the division as a result.

They are gonna finish second in division
NYG-Loss.
@Arizona-Win. The cards' run is done.

So that's 1-1

So TB is actually not a threat next year at least.

Carolina
Atlanta-1-1
NO-1-1 or 0-2
TB-1-1

3-3 or 2-4.

NFC North
GB-Loss.
Minnesota-Win. Their offense is not good enough to do that again.
@Detroit-Loss
@Chicago-Loss

1-3

AFC East
@NE-Loss
@NYJ-Win. Lack of offense on NYJ's side will not beat Cam.
Miami-Loss. There's a weird trend with this matchup.
Buffalo-Loss. The bills match up well here.

1-3

They will be last in division
Philadelphia-Win. Again, Philadelphia's got offensive issues for the foreseeable future.
@SF-Win if SF stays awful.

2-0.

At best Carolina is........7-9

Atlanta
TB-2-0
NO-0-2
Carolina-1-1

See Atlanta has to sweep TB because they're getting swept by us to continue their odd-numbered trend.

NFC North
GB-Win. GB's offense had no trouble but still think Atlanta wins again especially if GB ends up winning in Atlanta in the playoffs.
Minnesota-Loss. Because defensive teams can beat them.
@Detroit-Loss.
@Chicago-Win. They should go 2-2(4-0, 3-1 last two years vs the other division)

2-2.

AFC East
@NE-Loss
@NYJ-Win
Miami-Win
Buffalo-Win

3-1

vs.Dallas-Win
@Seattle-Loss

So Atlanta looks to go 9-7.

Since Atlanta won the division this year, they can't possibly win it again can they? Especially at that record?

So it doesn't matter. We're winning the division regardless of what happens.

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I agree with your assessment about the offensive line. We need another guard. Bad. Kelemente and Lelito are serviceable backups, but I'd like to see the Saints pick up a mauler in the draft or FA.

The rest of the offense will take care of itself IMO. And the defense will continue to improve. Get a couple low risk FA pickups and field at least 3/4 of a starting defense to start the season and we'll be in good shape.

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Turner may be coming around...still need to get new beef.

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What in the god**** hell are you talking about?! Take a little walk and get some fresh air Will.

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I literally have no clue what is happening...

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The schedule next year for the other three compared to us. Carolina or TB do not appear to have a schedule where they can win more than Atlanta. Atlanta winning two in a row in this rivalry? I don't think so.

I'm also pointing out that in 2013 the oline hurt us in road games. We could not even run out the clock against NE(but we also didn't even try), NYJ offense struggled a bit, StL offense definitely struggled. We were not winning in Seattle and Carolina no matter what. If we want the defense to get back to that point, the offensive line we recently have would yield a similar record.

I want the Brees back that does not take crap at home from the likes of the lions. We have them for a fourth straight year and if the process repeats itself something's up. Brees didn't have a single bad home game in 2011 and two in 2013 that they still won because they were serious games. So I'm not following that logic that people on SR are touting as just a off game.

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I'm still waiting for the thinking part.

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....... random comment.......

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I thought the first part about the offensive line was OK. But I thought I was the only one who didn't get the rest of his post tho. Lol. Phew.

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This post reminds me of the newspaper scene in the movie A Beautiful Mind. All these things in these newspapers connect for him, everyone else just looks t it likes its bat **** crazy

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Crack is bad.

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Why should it start now?

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When is the Fans Take for WWL radio?

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Lol I think you're what Buddy D used to refer to as a squirrel. Good luck with that.

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No difference makers at LB is a problem. We need another DE too. Is Levontae David a FA? LOL! The Bucs have fast LBs with him and Kwon Alexander. The offense will be good next year.

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"Methinks, arse, smythe and a Dab of Colour!" Forsooth!!

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....aaaaaaand then injuries. I'd recommend not reading any tea leaves this soon

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I have reread this entire thread and STILL can't make any sense of it! ;)

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Fix the O-line and bring in a DE and a MLB'er and we should be fine with the players returning from IR.

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The thing is..........you can't prevent injuries. And while we had bad luck with injuries affecting supporting pieces mostly. Those big pieces, there's one that falls each season and i personally hate relying on injury luck to win.

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Yep, on offense the only real need is OG and RT.

On defense we need a pass rusher, another good LB, and maybe a veteran CB

On special teams we need a KR and a PR.

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Trumaine Johnson (CB)
Hayden (CB)
Melvin Ingram (LB)
Kevin Zietler (G)
JPP (yes, 3 finger firecracker DE)

Solid FA's that will be available in 2017 8:).

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I'll take them all. That should do it. The only thing is......doesn't Zietler play the left side? Peat can't play right guard very well and he can't play RT at all. He is made to play on the left side. We need a LG an a LT. Also, I haven't heard a peep about the linemen on the practice squad.