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hagan714 01-01-2017 04:45 PM

A SP trade rumor that would at least make sense
 
1) ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Sunday morning that Gary Kubiak is likely stepping down after Sunday's game amid health concerns.

2) The Denver Broncos are projected to be $30,225,385 UNDER the cap (all salary info via Over The Cap) for 2017 and with only 38 players under contract. I will be surprised if the Bronco do not grab a player early in free agency.

Enter the Saints Drew Bress and Sean Payton and a chance for both to get a ring right away .

Drew Bress $13 million, 2018: Free Agent

Of course this would cost multi picks but it would be an instant fix in Denver much like Manning was. History repeats itself?

Denver Broncos currently 19th in the draft order

New Orleans Saints currently 15th in the draft order

Now this would be a rumor that makes sense for all parties involved. Everyone but saints fans.

Saints starting QB for 2017?

QB Mike Glennon Tampa Bay 26 / /6'6' / 225
2013 / Rd. 3 (73) / TB
$675,000, 2017: Free Agent
Big strong armed QB the Saints have been linked to in the past

spkb25 01-01-2017 05:35 PM

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drew would get you at least 2 first round picks. and a 2nd and 3rd too

At this point might as well start over, the SP experiment is over

dizzle88 01-01-2017 05:39 PM

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The era is over. Brees being traded could be neccessary for the teams future.

AllSaints 01-01-2017 05:51 PM

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I wouldn't be sad

spkb25 01-01-2017 05:58 PM

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Saints be calling other teams like

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CharityMike 01-01-2017 06:59 PM

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Delusional if you really think this is gonna happen. I said it in chat, as long as Benson is breathing and still in control of the team, SP is not going anywhere.

neugey 01-01-2017 07:37 PM

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The number that makes my eyes pop is 30 mil under the cap. We need some of that relief, so in theory maybe we would trade them some bad contracts as a part of the deal cough cough Byrd cough cough.

hagan714 01-01-2017 08:05 PM

Re: A SP trade rumor that would at least make sense
 
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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 731938)
Delusional if you really think this is gonna happen. I said it in chat, as long as Benson is breathing and still in control of the team, SP is not going anywhere.

I am with you on this. the other option just seemed too stupid. This whole thing is crazy.

But this morning I heard the news out of Denver and thought finally something that made sense for all parties involved.

will it happen? i doubt Benson would allow it.

NOLA54 01-01-2017 08:10 PM

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If SP is not part of the solution, he has to be part of the problem. Three 7-9 seasons is unacceptable. At some point you have to say enough is enough. I'm not in favor of Doug Marrone taking over either.

The Dude 01-01-2017 10:35 PM

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In defense of SP they haven't had much money to work with. They sold their soul for another run at the playoffs and got burned. I want to see what he can do now that they have money.

darstep 01-01-2017 11:22 PM

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I agree. But having money has to somehow turn into some defense.
We most always have enough points to win.
Who can that money bring, coach and/or player that can match our offensive production on defense?
If we learn to get off the field on 3rd and long, that's 4 more wins right there.
8 more sacks over 16 games will change a lot of out comes.
An actual cover corner to take away 1 side of the field would be HUGE.
All we need to do is get our offense some help.
We don't have to win 16 games...look at the records...we only need about 12.

CharityMike 01-01-2017 11:30 PM

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I will admit..there is a WHOLE lotta chatter this time. This may actually happen after all. I say, if Payton interviews with the Rams, its over, this is no longer a drill.

K Major 01-01-2017 11:39 PM

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I would agree... too much smoke not to be a fire.

spkb25 01-01-2017 11:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darstep (Post 731993)
I agree. But having money has to somehow turn into some defense.
We most always have enough points to win.
Who can that money bring, coach and/or player that can match our offensive production on defense?
If we learn to get off the field on 3rd and long, that's 4 more wins right there.
8 more sacks over 16 games will change a lot of out comes.
An actual cover corner to take away 1 side of the field would be HUGE.
All we need to do is get our offense some help.
We don't have to win 16 games...look at the records...we only need about 12.

we let up 16 against the giants, 16 to the bucs, 23 to the panthers, 25 to the broncos, 27 (20 by our d) to the chiefs.

in the chiefs game we had an int returned for td, meaning the d let up 20.

in the panthers game we fumbled at our own 34 and threw and interception leaving them at our 34. the panthers longest drive that night was 51 yards.10 points came from turnovers by our offense that left them starting at our 34 yard line both times

in the broncos game we threw an interception that let them start at our 39, and then fumbled and that let them start at our 27. Then we fubled at our own 20. still we only let up 23 points by our d except our extra point was blocked and ST let up 2 points

There are 5 games right there that we should have won but our offense let us down.

darstep 01-01-2017 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 731995)
I will admit..there is a WHOLE lotta chatter this time. This may actually happen after all. I say, if Payton interviews with the Rams, its over, this is no longer a drill.

They will offer Payton the Pacific ocean if they talk.
They have a brand new stadium to fill and scoring point is the way to fill it.
How do you say no to more money, more control, Hollywood and beaches?

CharityMike 01-01-2017 11:52 PM

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Don't forget daughter goes to school in LA. I'm on the fence with this. On one hand I think we are really close to doing something, on the other, if Payton goes, he takes all his buddies with him. Hmmmm

voodooido 01-02-2017 12:25 AM

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Bree's best statistical year in 5 years. Bree's is going no where. SP has been inconsistent for the past 3 years and it seems to be getting worse every year. SP I would take a 2nd this year and a 3rd next. I would not trade Bree's unless he lost his throwing arm in a car accident

nola_swammi 01-02-2017 02:48 AM

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Don't need to trade Payton, I would've said they need to to get rid of Loomis but it seems like he finally got a scouting team together to build a team. What need to be done is to find some coaches that can develop some of these young players,,,especially at lb and DL

AsylumGuido 01-02-2017 10:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 731943)
The number that makes my eyes pop is 30 mil under the cap. We need some of that relief, so in theory maybe we would trade them some bad contracts as a part of the deal cough cough Byrd cough cough.

Um. You do realize that the Saints are also over $30 million UNDER the cap for 2017, right?

AsylumGuido 01-02-2017 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 732004)
Don't forget daughter goes to school in LA. I'm on the fence with this. On one hand I think we are really close to doing something, on the other, if Payton goes, he takes all his buddies with him. Hmmmm

Don't forget his son goes to HS in Dallas and plays football there.

neugey 01-02-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 732072)
Um. You do realize that the Saints are also over $30 million UNDER the cap for 2017, right?

No I had not realized that. Glad we finally seem to be getting some relief.

AsylumGuido 01-02-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 732083)
No I had not realized that. Glad we finally seem to be getting some relief.

And that is before any bonuses are converted, which happens every year, and before the next Brees extension/restructure. The Saints could easily be looking at around $50 million in free cap for 2017.

ScottF 01-02-2017 11:10 AM

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Brees cost $37 million vs the cap next year. He is not leaving.

After 3 years below .500, I'd take a #1 for SP in a heartbeat

AsylumGuido 01-02-2017 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 732087)
Brees cost $37 million vs the cap next year. He is not leaving.

After 3 years below .500, I'd take a #1 for SP in a heartbeat

Nope. You have that wrong. Brees' cap hit next year is only $19 million. His dead cap would be $39 million if cut today. BIG difference.

ScottF 01-03-2017 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 732098)
Nope. You have that wrong. Brees' cap hit next year is only $19 million. His dead cap would be $39 million if cut today. BIG difference.

True, cut is $37, traded = $24 million.
Either way, not going to sacrifice $24m and not have a starting QB

Rugby Saint II 01-04-2017 12:56 PM

Re: A SP trade rumor that would at least make sense
 
I wonder what Trump would tweet about this? He could make the Saints great again.

nola_swammi 01-05-2017 04:52 PM

Re: A SP trade rumor that would at least make sense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 732019)
Don't need to trade Payton, I would've said they need to to get rid of Loomis but it seems like he finally got a scouting team together to build a team. What need to be done is to find some coaches that can develop some of these young players,,,especially at lb and DL

Someone in management is listening to me, Bill Johnson and Joe Vitt is addidos,,,,finally,,,,,now go get a former linebacker to help develop Stephon Anthony


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