It is clear Brees won't outlast Brady
 

Brees may actually be the problem. Which tells us he can't play at a high level four full quarters anymore. Can he even win with a offense like 2011 now? I don't care what the defense allowed or his second half urgency he just does not have that drive anymore. 13 points in the first half while the other team has 35. 2011 Brees doesn't allow it.

Have any of you actually watched a non-saints game this season featuring good defenses with better offenses?

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Brees can't do anything about our defense giving up 5 TD's on 5 possessions.
Yet another +5000 yard season - and another Top 2 offense, and we end up 7-9.
Our problem is, and has been defense ever since Brees and Payton came to town.
Our deep runs came when we had average and above average defenses.

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Teams that allow 35 points in a game win less than 5% of games. We allowed 35 in the first half.

Yes, let's blame Brees though :rolleyes: .

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So Brees can only win when everything is perfect. How many drives in the first half did the saints punt or kick a FG?

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Dude come on... this might be your dumbest post yet.
Arguably the best QB in the game and your blaming him for our losses... Brees throws 1 pick and everyone acts like it's the end of the world.

Imagine this **** team with a different QB, we would be worse than the Browns.

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Brees wouldn't have half of his INTs if he wasn't trying to compensate for being down several scores in the second half.

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When are you going to finally go away and never come back?

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Please...not this again about Brees! He will retire a Saint.

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It's clear you have no business on a fan forum. Just go, nobody is going to miss you.

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It's clear that you don't really know much about the Saints, Brees, and football in general.

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Man oh man, I'm glad I'm not the only one who see's our D has held us back year after year. I will admit the O line could be stouter 1 good G with 2 good TE( I don't like Fleener, he's soft) but other than that it's pretty good. I'll be the first to admit I thought our O line was going to be bad but I'm really glad I was wrong this season.

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No, halloween, believe it or not, we are both on exactly the same page.

;)

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Now that's funny. Sorry to say Willsaint, you're coming across as a saint's fan imposter spreading bad analytical views to have the real fans confused and bothered but it's not working. I could be wrong but I think I read a post recently that you're more like a Brees fan than a saint fan, now you bashing Brees? Hopefully, you're just frustrated and you can post with a clearer mindset or pick another team...

I AM A TRUE FAN. ILL BE THERE WHEN THEYRE AT THEIR HIGHEST AS WELL AS LOWEST. I am not a saint fan cause of their management coaches or players. They represent a city within my state. Others might have their reason but that is mines

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I have my theory: Will is an AI written by a Falcons fan to mess with all of us. Its goal is provoke as many negative posts at possible.

Unfortunately it seems to be very well written. I wonder how it'll respond it we simply ignore it?

SFIAH

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I'm ok with leaving the bandwagon fans behind.

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Even if Brees was a game manager at this point in his career...

And that would be a game manager who just led the league in passing...

It's the Payton/Loomis personnel team that has failed miserably with the efforts to build a defense in four years...

...and failed to secure a right guard despite hanging on to an obviously declining Jahri Evans...

Brees killed my fantasy team with his 6 INT/O TD two game stretch...

But my fantasy team is just like the Saints, no where near .500 without him...

Re: It is clear Brees won't outlast Brady
 

Well, I had Brees as my fantasy QB and won my league. Brees was a big reason for that, but so were all of the other players on both offense and defense that I maintained throughout the year. The best part of it is that the league is an Atlanta Falcons site based league that I have now won for the second time in three years while losing a tight one in the finals of the third.

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So you like to pay up for Brees in your drafts instead of having a important RB or receiver(well RB or elite TE because receivers outside three are overranked)

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Just get lost. All you do is ***** and moan.

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Wow!! I knew I could get you thinking right. lol

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What?! You haven't left yet?! So you are just going to hang around and troll?? I say -- Don't let the door hit you on the way out. And, **** Tom Brady that football deflating MFer.

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Never fails, I leave for a few weeks then come back and always 1 post thats just way out there.

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It is painfully obvious that he thinks he's a fan. He likes to see us win and look good. That is not a problem. Not sticking with your team through tough times says it all. We should call you wontsaint81.

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You can't be for real.

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Brady also has a super model wife. Brees, just a more than semi-attractive wife but I bet either one of them could kick your ass.

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Took Brees in the fifth round of a 12-team league (picking 11th in the first round)...this was my draft...RB Lamar Miller, RB Doug Martin, WR Brandin Cooks, WR Keenan Allen, QB Drew Brees, TE Travis Kelce, WR Jordan Matthews, RB Carlos Hyde, RB Jay Ajayi, WR Tajae Sharpe, DST Seahawks, K Stephen Gostkowski,QB Kirk Cousins, TE Charles Clay...

Won first game, got in a big hole, stomed back and then lost last three before playoffs, lost tie breaker for playoffs...

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I got Michael Thomas for free. First year playing, kinda fun but not sure if I do it again. I won 5 games with bargain bin players and signed over 70 players throughout the season. Crazy strategy and very time consuming but I started getting really good towards the end. I seldom lost by over 10 points.

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Sorry bud but this could be the dumbest post ever. Dress fault????? A blind could see he is the only one keeping the saints in games. And as for drew lasting as long as Brady that too is ignorant. Drew is in year 16 and Brady 17. Both have really overstayed. Qbs don't stay 16 years. They are both freaks of nature.

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QB's didn't USE to stay 16 years. I don't believe either has overstayed. This is 2017. The common perception of QB longevity in the NFL is based upon a completely different time period. Brett Favre played 20 years and was basically a crossover from the past to the present. When he started QB's were pummeled regularly on the field and punished their bodies in other ways off the field. He finished his career when QB's are treated with kid gloves on the field and work to keep their bodies in top physical form year round. Nobody can tell for sure how much longer Brees and Brady can keep playing. This is a completely new territory. Both have publicly stated that they believe they can keep performing highly well into their forties. Based upon the entirely new culture I don't see why anyone with any knowledge could ever doubt them.

No, neither Brady nor Brees is a freak of nature. They are simply products of current times. It's time for some of us to join them in 2017 instead of living in the past.

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In my league Drew is taken in the first two rounds. I'm not going to risk Le'veon Bell for a QB. You draft Cooks but keeping him on the bench is better than him scoring 30 for your playoff opponent.