Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two
 

I in no way shape or form think Allen and the good ole boys are worth a damn as coaches. I'm really amazes people think he is. Every DC out there loses players, every year and to think he puts his players in a position to bring out there talents is thinking wrong. He will be just as bad this season, no upgrade at all with this clown. It's been so long we had a good D I think people forget what one should do.He's just not that good people!!

Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two
 

I hear what your saying but idk if another defense took half of the injuries that ours did. Especially to key players.

Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two
 

I'm not saying that Allen is the answer. I'm just explaining that Payton IS actively working at fixing what is broken. Bringing in Allen was a means to the end. It was a positive move. So was bringing in Jeff Ireland. He also brought in Kevin O'Dea in November to help Lutz with his transition. O'Dea has a ton of experience with kickoff and return squads, as well.

Allen may not be the total cure, but he was a good band-aid at the time.

Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two
 

My question is why keep trying to patch it when you can fix it with proper coaches? I'm just sick of watching us play bad D. The patch jobs haven't did so well. It's time for a change before we fall into obscurity.

Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two
 

Its obvious why 2016 was a bust and why 2017 looks like a boom. I'm tired of explaining it.

Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two
 

Let's start a pool on how many loosing seasons Sean will have before he is terminated.

Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two
 

This team could use a defensive minded HC w/ DA as DC. Brees and Carmichael can handle offense w/o missing a beat. I'm open tot see how many and how high draft picks we can get for SP and his ridiculous overpaid contract.

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I dont think DA did a horrible job. But what ticks me off is that it took SP and Loomis this long to get us to the point where we finally have a young, respectable defense that plays with a lot of pride. They wasted away a great opportunity w the crap players and coaches that they put on the field the several years prior.

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Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two
 

I felt the same way for most of the season.
I feel that way now.
BUT!!!!!!!
I am really pissed off with another 7-9 record.
Whenever I see 7-9 records for three straight seasons?
Recent logic goes out of the window!
I have to question whether I was thinking logically after the previous two seasons and explained it away.
I only see 7-9 right now.
It doesn't have to be logical.
Im just EXTEMELY TIRED OF 7-9, regardless of the reason it keeps happening.

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I will beat this dead horse again.
As long as SP keeps his horrible asst coaches that are his buddies?
We will go nowhere!!!!!
Why keep a fossilized coaching staff that doesn't produce?
If they were worth a crap, they would be promoted to another level by some other organization.
SP has NO ONE ON HIS STAFF THAT ANYONE ELSE WANTS!!!!
This is maddening!!!!!!
He should be pushed overboard for this reason alone.
He used to have good assistants but the competent ones are long gone.
Now, we always see the usual suspects 7-9 after 7-9.
I welcome any poster here to dispute or to try and rationalize this point.