Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 733048)

He's in the waning years of hid catching career. He has a ring already as DC. He has stated he wants to stay in Denver. But if he does not, why not have him come in and help with Allen in charge? And why not adapt a system to fit the players at hand?

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 733069)

Wade should have been hired instead of RR, but Low Energy had to have his guy, the one he could control and that would keep all the people he just fired in place. The defense sucks because of Low Energy. He makes bad decisions with the coaches he hires, poor FA decisions, offers terrible contracts that end up putting us in salary cap hell, and can't draft to save his life.

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 733067)

year 1

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 733066)

Because Phillips has his system that's he's been running for nearly 30 years. As you stated he's on the back end of career. So why bother with having to share responsibility with someone who does not share philosophy and doesn't have the personnel to implement. You get exactly the same mess that you saw at the beginning of 2015 with Allen and Ryan.

In short there is no upside for Phillips. I am pretty certain his first thought would be: "I'm too old for this ****."



Different issue. Allen wasn't involved with the Anthony pick. So Anthony isn't Allen's guy. And of course Vitt was coaching the linebackers, of which none have been properly developed. I was thinking about the fact that all the productive linebackers the Saints have had in the last 10 years came from elsewhere. Vilma, Fujita, Shanle. Even Ellerbe and Robinson now. None were drafted by us.

Honestly, if folks simply labeled these thoughts as wishful thinking, I'd probably leave them alone. But since it seems that getting Phillips in here is being seriously pitched, then I have to ask what's in it for Phillips? I cannot see any upside for him.

SFIAH

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 733067)

year 1

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 733075)

I thought Allen did a great job in Denver especially with the offense they had there that consistently put pressure on them. I am interested to see how he does now that the NFL has a years worth of data on his system. I think what worries me is that we could be many players away. I am not sold on our LB's at all, and I don't think our backend is all that good. Yes we had injuries, but PJ williams has sat 30.5 games out of 32, that's not a ringing endorsement . Potential and skill are there, but health has to be a major worry. Swann had potential and then he has been injured. Breaux didn't look the same after coming back from his injury, hope that changes. Will be interesting to see how he does. I don't think DA is a bad coach by any means, but we are some players away and have some real question marks.

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 733088)

now lets see what cards he is dealt for year 2

i gave rob time under a self imposed gag order. i hated him before the ink dried

and i like DA so i can give him time.