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hagan714 01-09-2017 07:16 PM

Championship draft watch
 
Alabama

Jonathan Allen DE/DT Alabama 6025 294 4.85 #93 Sr
Beast very disruptive, using his speed and strength. In a 4-3 scheme, Allen could play end or tackle. He also could serve as a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 defense. He’s damn near unblockable in a lot of games. He’s not a special athlete but he’s extremely strong and an outstanding technician. He just looks like a pro.”

Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo
“future NFL corner” written all over himgreat athleticism, great size. Bama CB worry me but....how do you tell a 1st rounder to return to school? “He’s the most complete corner I’ve seen come out of there,” said one scout. “He’s as violent I’ve ever seen a corner be. I guess a little of that comes from the dad and he just carried it over. He can be a big-time player but he’s got to get some eye discipline.”

O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr

Freak under-utilization reliable run blocker,“His upside is through the roof,” another scout said, referring to Howard. “He’s a phenomenal human being and a great worker. At Alabama, you’re a blocker first and a receiver second. He’s grown as a blocker from a toughness and effort standpoint, and as a receiver he’s still a little untapped.”

Reuben Foster ILB Alabama 6005 236 4.72 #10 rSR
Foster is thumper has speed, ability in coverage. “Reuben is a machine, man,” said one. “He lost about 15 pounds this year but he has been above 250. Broad-shouldered, tapered, thick trunk, thick-legged guy. He can fly. He’s got rare trunk and core explosive power where he can just unload on people. And he can cover.”

Cam Robinson OT/OG Alabama 6056 310 5.28 #74 Jr
Best OT prostect in the draft even if it is at RT or OG. I am betting OG. You won’t find many better run-blocking talents. technique in pass pro is sloppy, he’s not the greatest athlete and he has character flags that need to be investigated. “He’s talented but he gets lazy,”

Tim Williams SAM Alabama 6031 252 4.76 #56 Jr (O)
3-4 rush backer Not a complete three-down player in the NFL, yet. 1 1/2 trick pony “Williams is a dynamite pass rusher,” will a gun possession charge earlier this season hurt him?

Ryan Anderson OLB Alabama 6021 253 4.77 #22 rSr
More complete DE/OLB than Tim. effective against the run and pass Anderson is a very steady, good football player. He doesn’t look pretty but he makes plays.”

Eddie Jackson FS/SS Alabama 6000 194 4.53 #4 Sr
solid deep free safety. massively improved after a move to safety from cornerback. natural as a coverage free safety who can cover in man and play the deep centerfield.fractured leg

Da’Shawn Hand DE/DT Alabama 6035 280 4.74 #9 Jr
An underrated steadying force. He ain.'t pretty but like Ryan Anderson what he does he does well and gets little credit for it. Pushes the pocket and sets the edge freeing up others to do there thing. Tim Williams and Reuben Foster are going to cash in because of his play.

Dalvin Tomlinson DT Alabama 6022 305 5.14 #54 rSr
An underrated steadying force along the defensive front flexibility, toughness and explosiveness, good run stuffer with some pass rush skills. Tomlinson can handle the two-gap effectively and hold the point of attack against the run. Yet again Tim Williams and Reuben Foster are going to cash in because of his play.


Clemson

Mike Williams WR Clemson 6032 220 4.58 #7 rJr
possession receiver. size, speed, athleticism, and an ability to go up and haul in contested catches

*Deshaun Watson QB Clemson 6021 210 4.64 #4 Jr

versatility, play making ability experience do not cover up a lack of polished nor inconsistency as a passer. lapses in judgement is the icing on the cake. But despite it all the upside and athleticism is there to roll the dice on. One more year in college would answer a lot questions but round 1 looks to be lock so roll the dice

Carlos Watkins DT/NT Clemson 6032 300 5.06 #94 rSr
tough interior defender. however get too tall out of his stance which causes him to lose leverage and get easily moved out of the way or pinned inside. inconsistent when it comes to effort as his motor tends to run a bit hot and cold.

Cordrea Tankersley CB/FS Clemson 6002 195 4.48 #25 Sr
tall and physical and matches up well against bigger boundary receivers. One big issue he has is peeking back at QB, bitting on a pump fake and off to the races after the falling for the WR double move. On the bright side he has gotten a lot better year at not getting fooled. Still a work in progess

Jordan Leggett TE Clemson 6050 258 4.73 #16 Sr
slot receiver. excellent route runner, and his hands are consistent. He is the Butt of slot TE

Wayne Gallman RB Clemson 6002 215 4.52 #9 rJr
Solid burst. solid speed, very physical determined runner, elusiveness in close quarters, breaks a lot of tackles in space. some receiving ability. A natural pass-catcher. Reliable in pass-protection but still needs work. Tough. Has an old-school football mentality. Has an edge to him. Jack-of-all-trades players. Low ceiling? Third Down Back in a rotation?

I can see as many as 4 players having a solid chance being a saint in 2017

Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo
Ryan Anderson OLB Alabama 6021 253 4.77 #22 rSr
Eddie Jackson FS/SS Alabama 6000 194 4.53 #4 Sr
Da’Shawn Hand DE/DT Alabama 6035 280 4.74 #9
Dalvin Tomlinson DT Alabama 6022 305 5.14 #54 rSr

Would not be bad five picks lol

Lets see how this plays out :beer:

K Major 01-09-2017 07:42 PM

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Tim Williams

hagan714 01-09-2017 08:47 PM

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Williams gun bit almost takes him off the saints board i believe, depends on interviews. Teams rather run at him over Anderson. Besides I am a bit bias against pass rush specialist at OLB in 43. It is a personal issue I know lol

Marlon Humphrey is a gamble I know but the odds are he will break that bad run on Bama CB in the NFL. While a work in progress in coverage I really like his tackling skill set.

SLB is more of a hole IMO and I really like Ryan Anderson. Teams do not run at him :)

Da’Shawn Hand and David Onyemata could make for a nice mix on the DL

Dalvin Tomlinson is a sand in the pants anchor for DL rotation.

SmashMouth 01-09-2017 09:20 PM

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Well .. they aren't LSU players.. so yeah, SP will draft them. :rofl:

Beastmode 01-09-2017 09:34 PM

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Fournette will be the best rookie out of the SEC barring injury. 4.36 low 40, 230+ lbs and can catch. Not his fault Miles has an aversion to passing.

Saint in Aus 01-09-2017 09:39 PM

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I like the sound of Humphrey

jeanpierre 01-09-2017 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 733215)
Well .. they aren't LSU players.. so yeah, SP will draft them. :rofl:

Keep picking that open wound Smash... ;)

jeanpierre 01-09-2017 09:56 PM

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Reuben Foster may fall to us, and that'll present a dilemma as we really need a defensive end opposite Cam Jordan...

And I really like Michigan St DL Malik McDowell, versatile, athletic, long, and he'd be a perfect fit for D.A.'s front four...

But I gotta feeling we're taking CB Marlon Humphrey who's been a little disappointing against Williams tonight...

jeanpierre 01-09-2017 09:59 PM

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C'mon Bama, SEC's having a bad year, put us over .500...

F***ing Joe Alleva has gotta geaux, no reason LSU didn't at least play in the Sugar Bowl and tear Oklahoma another one, again...

jeanpierre 01-09-2017 10:02 PM

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Looks like Drew's having a good time on the other channel...


neugey 01-10-2017 07:18 AM

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Loads of talent, and, with no disrespect to the Saints, games like last night make me think the college game is 100x better than the NFL.

Going beyond the obvious (the Bama defenders, Watson, Mike Williams), I really liked what both the TE's did and also Gallman who reminds me of Shane Vereen or our own Pierre Thomas.

jeanpierre 01-10-2017 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 733216)
Fournette will be the best rookie out of the SEC barring injury. 4.36 low 40, 230+ lbs and can catch. Not his fault Miles has an aversion to passing.

May be blaspheme for Tigers' fans, but I say Fournette will be okay, but I don't see his game transitioning with the same impact at the pro level...

Thinking Eddie George, 4X ProBowler, one or two league rushing titles, wear and tear, 8 years, and that's why you don't spend a first round pick on RBs anymore, unless you're Sean Payton/Mickey Loomis, then you throw in a second round pick as well...

Danno 01-10-2017 08:43 AM

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Great game last night. There are probably 10 guys on the field that will be picked in the 1st round this year.

Although I'm disappointed in the outcome, the Bama-Clemson game is a great example of why so many fans prefer College Football over the NFL. And its gonna continue.

K Major 01-10-2017 09:37 AM

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Yeah it was a very good game.

That WR for Clemson is pretty impressive.

CharityMike 01-10-2017 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 733247)
Yeah it was a very good game.

That WR for Clemson is pretty impressive.

Renfrow. I see him being the next Julian Edellman.

Danno 01-10-2017 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 733259)
Renfrow. I see him being the next Julian Edellman.

Pretty sure he meant Mike Williams, who strangely enough is the #11th ranked player in the upcoming draft.:p


Hmmmm...

neugey 01-10-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 733259)
Renfrow. I see him being the next Julian Edellman.

It's tough for those undersized walk-on slot guys in the college game to make it in the NFL. But they are often overacheivers and a few of them now and then are able to survive in the NFL, like Wes Welker. Other ones like Dabo Swinney go onto to become successful coaches :).

hagan714 01-10-2017 12:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 733261)
Pretty sure he meant Mike Williams, who strangely enough is the #11th ranked player in the upcoming draft.:p


Hmmmm...

that neck scares me. imagine he will get the fine comb treatment

saintsfan1976 01-10-2017 01:14 PM

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If it can't be Foster it must be Robinson.

Rugby Saint II 01-10-2017 03:54 PM

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DE, LB'er and RG in the first three rounds regardless of who we bring in free agency. Terry Fontenot may be the next head to roll if we don't get good players in free agency. We got lucky with Fairley but he did sit on the market until his value was acceptable for the risk involved. I'm not sold on the Pro evaluations or the scouting department just yet.

jeanpierre 01-10-2017 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 733247)
Yeah it was a very good game.

That WR for Clemson is pretty impressive.

Which one? Williams or Renfro?

Cause both of them made the Clemson QB look great last night...


Either one handed catches on either jump balls or in traffic...

K Major 01-10-2017 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 733294)
Which one? Williams or Renfro?

Cause both of them made the Clemson QB look great last night...


Either one handed catches on either jump balls or in traffic...

Yes ... Mike Williams (couldn't think of his name at the time of my post). He looks the part at the next level. Big, strong and catches the ball at the highest point.

Side note: Reuben Foster is an impressive LB for Bama. That performance last night certainly didn't hurt his draft status.


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