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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 Bringing SP down? I am on here continuously stating that SP can still coach but that I think he needs a fresh start and how I hope next year we win the SB with him. That's ...

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Old 01-28-2017, 11:37 PM   #1
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Re: We took our eye off the division

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Bringing SP down? I am on here continuously stating that SP can still coach but that I think he needs a fresh start and how I hope next year we win the SB with him. That's just foolishness.

He said an associate of SP called them but that they were not interested in him. I supplied facts. Facts aren't negative or positive, they just are. Well now you're speculating and you're welcome to do that, but maybe you should keep from degrading other board members when they do the same. You have a habit, when someone offers an opinion that differs from yours, of telling people they couldn't possibly know the things they're saying because they're not on the in. Now you're doing the same thing, again, and trying to pretend that your speculations are facts.

Have a nice day AG
You are basing your opinion upon a well known hack that has repeatedly supplied false narratives. I simply pointed that out to you. You supplied no facts whatsoever. All you supplied were those same speculations that were denied by ALL parties. I'm not degrading you at all. I am simply pointing out your misguided direction. I can't help that you prefer to believe idiotic fabricated speculations as fact.

I have shared factual accounts that pointed out that La Canfora's speculations were outright lies. Believe your fairly tails if you wish if they make you feel better about your negative viewpoints.


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Old 01-28-2017, 11:47 PM   #2
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You are basing your opinion upon a well known hack that has repeatedly supplied false narratives. I simply pointed that out to you. You supplied no facts whatsoever. All you supplied were those same speculations that were denied by ALL parties. I'm not degrading you at all. I am simply pointing out your misguided direction. I can't help that you prefer to believe idiotic fabricated speculations as fact.

I have shared factual accounts that pointed out that La Canfora's speculations were outright lies. Believe your fairly tails if you wish if they make you feel better about your negative viewpoints.

I have based nothing on that man as we have both agreed numerous times about both of them

Again, I stated that the Colts said that an associate of SP contacted them and they said they were not interested. These are facts. I said they would not lie about that. I based it on what the Colts said and that they would not make that up. You either refuse to accept this or you're thick headed. I will just keep quoting my original post for you.

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The Colts themselves said some associate of SP contacted them, that is not a lie. The Colts wouldn't make that **** up. That is true!

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Old 01-29-2017, 12:27 AM   #3
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I have based nothing on that man as we have both agreed numerous times about both of them

Again, I stated that the Colts said that an associate of SP contacted them and they said they were not interested. These are facts. I said they would not lie about that. I based it on what the Colts said and that they would not make that up. You either refuse to accept this or you're thick headed. I will just keep quoting my original post for you.
Sorry. You have that wrong. Your original post that you keep quoting is incorrect. Pete Ward, the team’s chief operating officer said that "someone who said he was an associate of Sean Payton" called and asked if he was interested in talking and he said no and that was it. What part of that don't you understand? He didn't even know who called. He said his part of the conversation was one word - "no". I don't doubt somebody called. Obviously someone that Ward thought was not worth listening to. Who called? If it was anyone that was even somewhat legitimate they would have gotten more than a "no" and a dial tone. He never said that an associate of Sean Payton called. He said that someone who claimed he was an associate called. Hell, you could call and claim you were an associate and get hung up on after a one world answer, too.

Now do you get it? You choose to believe La Canfora, a master of bullcrap, over the chief operating officer of the Colts? Only if you have an agenda with no regard for facts.

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Old 01-29-2017, 09:44 AM   #4
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Sorry. You have that wrong. Your original post that you keep quoting is incorrect. Pete Ward, the team’s chief operating officer said that "someone who said he was an associate of Sean Payton" called and asked if he was interested in talking and he said no and that was it. What part of that don't you understand? He didn't even know who called. He said his part of the conversation was one word - "no". I don't doubt somebody called. Obviously someone that Ward thought was not worth listening to. Who called? If it was anyone that was even somewhat legitimate they would have gotten more than a "no" and a dial tone. He never said that an associate of Sean Payton called. He said that someone who claimed he was an associate called. Hell, you could call and claim you were an associate and get hung up on after a one world answer, too.

Now do you get it? You choose to believe La Canfora, a master of bullcrap, over the chief operating officer of the Colts? Only if you have an agenda with no regard for facts.
I can tell that the density of your skull is by far thicker than most, let me just go ahead and keep posting that:

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The Colts themselves said some associate of SP contacted them, that is not a lie. The Colts wouldn't make that **** up. That is true!

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Old 01-29-2017, 10:22 AM   #5
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I can tell that the density of your skull is by far thicker than most, let me just go ahead and keep posting that:
You honestly don't get it?

Ward, the Colts' COO, the person that took the call, said someone who "said" he was an associate of Payton called and was told no. That person could have been any Joe off the street, but was most likely someone like La Canfora himself. If the caller was truly a known associate of Payton's, like Loomis or his agent, then Ward would known that individual and would not have worded it like he did.

But the main point is that La Canfora's story is 98% bullcrap and he was called out by everyone from Payton, to Loomis, to the Colts' COO. Yet you seem to believe the whole thing.

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You honestly don't get it?

Ward, the Colts' COO, the person that took the call, said someone who "said" he was an associate of Payton called and was told no. That person could have been any Joe off the street, but was most likely someone like La Canfora himself. If the caller was truly a known associate of Payton's, like Loomis or his agent, then Ward would known that individual and would not have worded it like he did.

But the main point is that La Canfora's story is 98% bullcrap and he was called out by everyone from Payton, to Loomis, to the Colts' COO. Yet you seem to believe the whole thing.
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The Colts themselves said some associate of SP contacted them, that is not a lie. The Colts wouldn't make that **** up. That is true!
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Old 01-29-2017, 12:12 PM   #7
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The Colts themselves said some associate of SP contacted them, that is not a lie. The Colts wouldn't make that **** up. That is true!
No. THAT is NOT true. An associate of Payton's did not call them. A person who SAID he was an associate of Payton's called them. BIG difference. If your going to try to hang your hat on some insignificant particle, at least get it right.

If you cannot recognize the difference, then you are exactly the type of target that hacks like La Canfora and Rapoport hope to take advantage of with their brand of throw it against the wall and see if it sticks approach. Accuracy and logic will never stand in the way of web clicks. Part of the lemming mass and beyond hope.


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