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Vrillon82 02-06-2017 07:16 PM

im thinking this is difference between Elite and non elite
 
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Reading that, if Matt Ryan was truly an elite QB, he would be changing the play or calling the play at the line.

ChrisXVI 02-06-2017 08:19 PM

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That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?!

dam1953 02-06-2017 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736070)
That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?!

Well, next year will determine how elite Matty is. If he reverts back to the on again off again Matty of old, maybe all the magic was in fact Shanahan's luck of the Irish.

RaginCajun83 02-06-2017 10:08 PM

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He wasn't elite to begin with and never will be

Vrillon82 02-06-2017 10:12 PM

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Hes the Jim Kelly of the era.

Srgt. Hulka 02-06-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 736083)
Hes the Jim Kelly of the era.

Don't insult Jim Kelly like that. :)

Vrillon82 02-06-2017 11:03 PM

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So much of a similarity between them though, talent on the teams, the offense, and then choking at the absolute worst times, for Kelly it was 4 straight SBs.

WillSaints81 02-06-2017 11:12 PM

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Kelly was in three more SBs than Marino. That's a terrible comparison.

Vrillon82 02-07-2017 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 736086)
Kelly was in three more SBs than Marino. That's a terrible comparison.

Brad Johnson and Flacco have more SB Victories than Marino to.

Marino played on a team where it was just him and no one else.

jeanpierre 02-07-2017 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736070)
That's why it's kinda weird that people are bashing Shanahan so hard for calling passing plays when they should've been running. Excuse me, but isn't Matt Ryan a 31 year old MVP QB?! Does he not have the authority to audible into a run play?!

MVPs want the ball in clutch situations; should have the ball in clutch situations; should deliver in clutch situations...

Seer1 02-07-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 736085)
So much of a similarity between them though, talent on the teams, the offense, and then choking at the absolute worst times, for Kelly it was 4 straight SBs.

Bill Belichick vs Quinn?
Robert Kraft vs Fill in the Blank?
Bill Belichick vs Dimitroff?
Brady vs Matty?
Patricia vs Smith?
McDaniels vs Shanahan?
Kelly vs Matty?

I'm not really seeing much of a similarity where it really counts. And Kelly and Matty in the same sentence makes my spell/grammar checker just go plumb crazy.

K Major 02-07-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 736083)
Hes the Jim Kelly of the era.

I wouldn't put him in Kelly company though. Jim was an elite/HOF QB.

AsylumGuido 02-07-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 736085)
So much of a similarity between them though, talent on the teams, the offense, and then choking at the absolute worst times, for Kelly it was 4 straight SBs.

Three of four of Kelly's teams were solid underdogs. They were a favorite against the Giants in the first, but Washington (7), Dallas (6.5) and Dallas (10.5) were heavily favored to win.

Rugby Saint II 02-07-2017 03:52 PM

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Drew Brees>Matty Lice


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